Rule Suggestion Changes to D-class Escape risk Fear RP requirements

[Willaim Lingerson]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Alright before you DOWNVOTE this hear me out. Escape risks are crackheads who will take any chance to get a keycard, gun, kill, ect and have to put themselves into danger because of it. So I'm proposing a change where Escape Risks need to have at least 2-3 guns on them for fear RP to take affect along with if it is 2 people with a gun on them, they can try (emphasis on the TRY) to kill them by any means and or run away via trickery (Which is something D-class do anyway). Now I understand this would be a bit annoying at times but think about it. Escape risks are already in low numbers so I imagine this wouldn't be a major problem, while at the same time allowing for D-class to take MASSIVE risks and at time be rewarded for it. It would also make sense in RP since Escape risks are the lowest ranking D-class and know they would be killed at a moment's notice and therefore will risk their life for they already don't have much to lose (Other than their life which is inconsequential to them because most of the time, they're crackheads that want to wreak havoc). Also for the Fear Rp to take affect the

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
Not to what I know, but this is a very simple change and in reality, inconsequential.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
- Escape risks have another reason to want to be escape risk other than to be meta gaming magnets
- Could lead to some interesting deception (maybe)
- Follows in lore info

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- Could be annoying at times (But this probably will be a rare occurrence)

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Listen I understand that this will be annoying when it happens. BUT REMEMBER THE KEYWORD, Empathy, D-class deserve some advantages here and there along with the fact that Escape risks are pretty the fent heads of D-block and have their main purpose to cause havoc. Even if doing so causes severe injury to other or themselves, it's what makes D-class fun the risks you take as D-class lead to it being fun to play.

 

[Federschwert]

They're still prisoners, William. If NU-7, CI, and GOC all have the same fear RP requirements, I don't actually understand - IRPly - why they'd be opposite.

It'd also unnecessarily overcomplicate DBlock and necessitate even more GSD to mainline DBlock instead of being able to be 'general security'.

 

[SamPaval]

Massive - Support

Just because there escape risks shouldn't invalidate there will to live, To summarize this suggestion its just "i killed a lot of people so i therefore shouldn't have to follow fear rp" You are still human, and you are still a prisoner with no way to defend yourself.

getting to escape risk isn't hard just constantly be combative and escape every 5 minuets and kill guards. all this would do is increase combativeness on the server to get escape risk so there immune to a core rule

if you cant find fun on d class that isnt breaking out and causing havoc, just play CI atp

Keep this suggestion nice everyone don't insult the person or the potential idea behind it even if you dont like it.

 

[Skittles]

-Support

This will only create issues, harm any chances of escape risks being tested on and only encourage more combat. We already have enough of that.

It'll also be a nightmare at low population.

 

[Avery Snow]

While I understand the vision, and the factor of a crazy prisoner with nothing to lose. Encouraging Class-D to be more combative is something I cannot support.
-Support

 

[Emilia Foddg]

+Support
Everyone else is overreacting. This makes perfect sense tbh. I always felt like FearRP for literal death-row inmates should be more of a case-by-case basis rather than alike the strict conditions applied to everyone else. Free my boys.

 

[Shooxcie]

-Support because in that situation where they are unable to fear rp you why wouldn't they just shoot you? At the end of the day if you are an unarmed person you are an unarmed person, no matter how crazy you are

 

[Emilia Foddg]

because in that situation where they are unable to fear rp you why wouldn't they just shoot you?

In my experience, GSD almost never detain escaped D-Class and elect instead to shoot them, so this changes nothing.

 

[Willaim Lingerson]

Massive - Support

Just because there escape risks shouldn't invalidate there will to live, To summarize this suggestion its just "i killed a lot of people so i therefore shouldn't have to follow fear rp" You are still human, and you are still a prisoner with no way to defend yourself.

getting to escape risk isn't hard just constantly be combative and escape every 5 minuets and kill guards. all this would do is increase combativeness on the server to get escape risk so there immune to a core rule

if you cant find fun on d class that isnt breaking out and causing havoc, just play CI atp

Keep this suggestion nice everyone don't insult the person or the potential idea behind it even if you dont like it.

I understand where ur coming from, but I never said to INVALIDATE fear RP I just said to change it to where you can atleast get a chance to save your run if you used 914 and are being captured by some bozos yk?
Also I'm blacklisted from CI due to saying I shit myself when I was 7 in OOC.

 

[Willaim Lingerson]

-Support

This will only create issues, harm any chances of escape risks being tested on and only encourage more combat. We already have enough of that.

It'll also be a nightmare at low population.

Dearest Civil networker. I would like to remind you that Escape risk's have NO way to be tested on, whether this change is implemented or not will not change Escape risk's attitude to using D-class a combat class.
Also we can't exactly escape during low pop due to keycard limitations but that doesn't say we cant do anything at ofc.
Remember, this is a server not just for RP or Combat but a coexistence whether we like it or not.