Denied CI/UNGOC marksman drones

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Trek

Trek

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
  • Gives CI Marksman job [swep_drone_controller]
  • Gives CI Marksman job ability to purchase drones
  • Change Rule 3.1(a) CI Raiding to include drones starting MR cooldown:
    3.1(a) CI Raiding - CI can raid the facility or UNGOC base when authorized by a CO, once every 45 minutes. A raid starts once CI breaches the fenced off area on both bases or through the foundation vents. Or if a drone is flown into the respective GOI's compound. Only 8 CI may enter the vents on the foundation base. Once personnel raiding the base die they cannot return. A raid ends when all CI are dead; timers begin counting down once a raid has ended.
  1. Gives UNGOC Marksman job [swep_drone_controller]
  2. Gives UNGOC Marksman job ability to purchase drones
  3. Change Rule 3.3(a) GOC Foundation Raiding to when a raid is started:
    3.3(a) GOC Foundation Raiding - The UNGOC may not raid the Foundation base unless approved by a UNGOC LT+ with justified reasoning, except that Assessment Team operatives may enter for espionage once every 45 minutes; with normal raids being one hour. A raid starts once UNGOC breaches the fenced off area on both bases or through the foundation vents. Or if a drone is flown into the Foundation's compound. Without permission to enter by Foundation personal.
  4. Change 3.3(b) GOC CI Raiding to include when a raid is started:
    3.3(b) GOC CI Raiding - The UNGOC may not raid the Chaos Insurgency unless approved by a UNGOC LT+ to retrieve an SCP, or classified documents belonging to the Foundation or GOC, except that Assessment Team Operatives may enter for espionage once every 45 minutes with approval from a UNGOC LT+. A raid starts once UNGOC personal, or drone, breaches the garage area of CI's base. Or when hacking of the garage door is started. Without permission by Chaos insurgency personal.
  • Change 3.2(a) Foundation Raiding to include drones:
    3.2(a) Foundation Raiding - Foundation MTF personnel can raid the CI and UNGOC Base when authorised by a MTF Major+, External Affairs Agency Manager+, or Site Administration e.g (O5, Ethics, Site Director/Advisor). They may raid once every 30 minutes. A raid starts once foundation personnel have started hacking the entrance of the CI or UNGOC base, have breached CI or UNGOC base without respective factions permission or fly a drone into CI or UNGOC base. Once personnel raiding the base die, they cannot return. A raid ends when all MTF personnel are dead; timers begin counting down once a raid has ended. Valid reasons for raiding include: A facility SCP is captured by CI. CI has kidnapped a foundation member. Retrieving Stolen Documents.

GOI Drone Boundaries, that would start raid cooldown

Noting. That drones shouldn't come under the rules for base camping. As it would then become inpractical to perform reconnaissance. This does add that Foundation wouldn't (Which they currently can with out repercussions) be able to fly drones into other GOI bases, without starting a raid cooldown.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
This isn't a suggestion for a new job, and would require less dev work. It also doesn't undermine the Jammer suggestion. Because that still adds a counter play, to other factions having drones out.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
  1. New equipment for CI & UNGOC players to use (License training & reconnaissance)
  2. Gives Nu-7 & DEA more to do on surface (Defending/counter play training)
Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
  1. Cause more lag. Idk how much
  2. Would change the balance of surface combat. As Foundation would have to encounter drones on surface.
  3. Could cause confusion with crossfire between GOIs. Unable to identify what GOI random drones belong to.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Personally I don't believe this will be a game breaking change to the server.
It wouldn't require much dev time. As it's already coded to the DEA Jobs: (Equalling 14 possible Foundation drones on surface)
5x Senior Agents, 4x Special Agents, 4x Agency managers, 1x Director of External Affairs

Yes. UNGOC & CI will be able to perform more recon on surface. But it's not unbalanced. "X" GOI can still ask "X" GOI in comms if they have any drones on surface. And then destory "X" GOI's drones, without hassel.

Yes. Surface will be more populated with drones. I don't image by much, until the rare ocasion. Where we see some funny highlights clips of flying drones everywhere. Even then it's limited to 2 CI drones and 2 UNGOC drones max, beacuse of job limits.
 
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KalebStar

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You can buy a drone off amazon and have it at your place same day. Doubt CI would want to lose in the recon department when you can aquire drones quite easily.
 
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Suggestion Denied​


Hi Trek,

Thanks for taking the time to make a server suggestion.
The Content Team has chosen to deny your suggestion due to the following reasons.

We discussed this in the discord a bit the other day, but also went over a lot of it during today's meeting. Our perspective on the matter remains consistent, adding drones to CI Marksman will make it far too powerful on surface, as it is already borderline OP in the right hands.

With the ongoing loadout change project, there are plans to add Drones to CI and GOC, but 1) they will be tackled when we get to those factions, and 2) they will go on a different job if we decide to go through with it.

Your suggestion will now be locked and marked as denied.​
 
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