Denied CO/SCO Improvement

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
+ Addition of Cuffs to COs Jobs
+ More use for COs
+ More use of Assets

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
Don't think so?

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
+ More discipline towards own regiment members, and NATO members?
+ Different tactics during war
+ Bigger use of assets (especially during late/early wars)

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- More arrests and unlawful arrests?
- May not be 100% Realistic, and could be too OP?
- Waste of Warfunds?

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Giving Cuffs to COs is a must, as Hersh already mentioned, he even thought we already got them as 1LT/2LT, which we don't, he said he was gone try get it changed, but for now I'm making this suggestion so it can be done faster possibly, sometimes COs are the only active personnel on NATO, (NWO has a lot of SCs and higher ups so don't have much of this problem but could benefit from it too), so there's no one to enforce rules, and discipline people, if no RMP is active, and since only RMP gets cuffs, and SAS, we are stuck to relying on them a lot of time, giving COs cuffs to deal with problems inside their regiment faster, or outside too, would be beneficial, especially, if we spot a possible spy, and we don't need to wait for a RMP or someone with cuffs to come and arrest him

This suggestion is gone be really controversial, and I'm open to proper feedback and suggestions how to balance it if people think it's good but too OP, but giving COs or SCO the ability to pilot helis, either Transport ones such as BH or Chinook/Chinook equivalent for NWO, would be really helpful, currently, even now RCs are only able to co pilot, and that is rarely seen, if posible, at a certain point, either CO or SCO should be able apply for a test in JAF/SWB, to train, and go up in grades or something to get a pilots license so they can fly, and possibly this would allow infantry regiments to paradrop during wars, I know SAS COL already gets the ability to pilot helis, so why can't ISAF/IVG? I'm not asking to pilot Apaches, Ka52s or stuff, but a transport heli would be nice, as Blackhawk aren't really that used during wars

Currently 1LT and 2LT, are able to call FOB Supplies, Personal UAV, Quadbike, Armor, and Tactical Insert, that's everythin they can call out and ofc the smoke screen, I agree B2 and Napalm should be locked to HC but Airstrike or Advanced UAV shouldn't, since 1LTs and 2LTs tend to lead a lot of wars currently, even when leading we are unable to provide much support, since we don't have any assets to use, ofc this would make it so there could be more a waste of warfunds, but at same time, it could not, and to prevent waste of warfunds, people should be available to request it, so a higher up may grant or deny, in case there's one, if not they may use it freely
 
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shaun11103

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-support I would rather not have a bunch of CO's running around with cuffs the RC is more than enough along with this airstrike is not locked to HC you should go and look at things before making a suggestion and ADV UAV being locked to HC is the best thing ever for reasons that i shouldnt have to state as it being 2.5 mil should be enough
 
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+/- Support

I'm open to the idea of allowing anyone to copilot again, but piloting should be restricted to the pilot regiments in my opinion, same as driving tanks to tank regiments.
I disagree with allowing Officer+ handcuffs. Maybe elastic restraints? Even that is a hefty maybe.
Also Precision Airstrike is not locked to HC, It is put at Captain, and certain assets should remain locked to HC, no matter how much they may benefit COs being able to use it, to stop abuse and keep a hierarchy in place.
Maybe some assets should be reviewed on a rank-based system, but at the moment I don't see that much issue with it.
 
-support the handcuffs arleady went around in a rc/cc meeting (if i am correct 2 months ago) and both rmp and aor said no mainly becaus of how much abuse their can be made with cuffs and how hopeless this can make aor. this is also realy bad idea mainly becaus you have SC , RC and rmp who can arrest even sas via the elastic restrains. also this would completely change some regs becaus now people can just go around and hardcuff or elastic restrain so aor is not needed.
all tac tablet things exept scuds and B2 are not locked behined sc/rc

this will aslo not give sco's a feeling of reward by gaining a new type of toy.

also elastic restrains is already a nono i think mainly becaus it is SAS/STS job to go out and go take hostages while the rest have to stay in base or build fob's

aor gets cuffs becaus it is our job , if we do abuse our power we get immitiatly kicked out of the reg no matter which rank. and no even co's are not that competent to use hard cuffs or elastic's. i have seen co's trying to do aor job while it wasn't a actual law. sas did even get elastic restrains mainly becaus of SIC which got disbanded as it has proven that abuse of power is realy easy with people not beingn trained as rmp/aor. also adding elastics to other reg's will make rmp/aor useless and people will random arrest or cuff other people.
 
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-support I would rather not have a bunch of CO's running around with cuffs the RC is more than enough along with this airstrike is not locked to HC you should go and look at things before making a suggestion and ADV UAV being locked to HC is the best thing ever for reasons that i shouldnt have to state as it being 2.5 mil should be enough
What's the problem with that? We got a lot of RMP running around with cuffs, and they sometimes arrest people without doing anything wrong? COs are more than competent to be allowed to carry cuffs. If someone abuses it, it's on the Regiment COs/RC that allowed that person on getting to that position, without knowing how to use the power correctly

I never said Airstrike was locked to HC, but it should be allowed by COs, you didn't understand my original suggestion or I didn't explain it properly, but what I meant was Airstrike and Adv Uav should be allowed to COs too, not only SCO+ seeing how late night wars and probaly early wars, it's gone be mostly these people, instead of SCO/RC or HC/SC, even at times like 2pm or 3pm you don't really see much SCO+ active
Also kinda hard for me to know what each asset is unlocked at what rank, seeing how 1 - Not In-Game, 2 - I don't really pay attention to that since I never had access to it, I don't think I got any new assets from when I went from RSM to 2LT
 
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I'm open to the idea of allowing anyone to copilot again, but piloting should be restricted to the pilot regiments in my opinion, same as driving tanks to tank regiments.
I disagree with allowing Officer+ handcuffs. Maybe elastic restraints? Even that is a hefty maybe.
Also Precision Airstrike is not locked to HC, It is put at Captain, and certain assets should remain locked to HC, no matter how much they may benefit COs being able to use it, to stop abuse and keep a hierarchy in place.
Maybe some assets should be reviewed on a rank-based system, but at the moment I don't see that much issue with it.
Anyone no, but CO+ should be able to, CO is a position that not everyone can get, as there are requirements, in most cases they need do a interview (atleast in ISAF we do that), and to avoid someone going into Co-Pilot and breaking rules, also in that case, SAS shouldn't be able to fly, it's unfair for other regiments, especially infantry ones, ISAF/SAS might sometimes need a paradrop, to push a point, but we can't JAF cause you guys need to defend 17th and other people from Armour/Infantry, so that leaves ISAF especially with no option other than walking on foot, SAS has the advantage of their COL being able to get pilot license, also driving tanks is already possible in a way sorta, RMP/ISAF/SAS?/JAF get Bradley and Boxer iirc, they might not quality as full on tanks, but they are somewhat armored vehicles

I said handcuffs, but elastics also work yes for sure, just a way to restrain someone, and prevent them from fucking around too much, should've also mentioned that in my original post

I think I might explained my point wrong, I didn't mean to say PA was locked to HC, I know it's SCO+ and yes, some should remain locked to HC, but things as PA and Adv UAV, are things that while may be good and helpful, aren't that expensive (I think?), and can really help a ton, and that COs+ could benefit while leading wars

I think that with the rank change, some stuff wasn't properly thought, and left some ranks without much power, getting from RSM to 2LT is not that big of a change, even getting to MSGT is not that important anymore, as people cannot even bid, since it's 2LT according to Staff
 
-support the handcuffs arleady went around in a rc/cc meeting (if i am correct 2 months ago) and both rmp and aor said no mainly becaus of how much abuse their can be made with cuffs and how hopeless this can make aor. this is also realy bad idea mainly becaus you have SC , RC and rmp who can arrest even sas via the elastic restrains. also this would completely change some regs becaus now people can just go around and hardcuff or elastic restrain so aor is not needed.
all tac tablet things exept scuds and B2 are not locked behined sc/rc
As mentioned, I forgot about elastics, but if that's a better option compared to handcuffs, also fair, cause we just need some way to restrain people, and sometimes they might be needed to PT someone, or something, I can't say how many times ISAF could've kidnapped someone, but we don't get elastics, so that person delayed a lot, and ended up dieing, we even lost a SC at one point

Scud, B2 and Napalm are RC+
PA and Adv UAV, and idk what else? is SCO+
CO get the stuff I mentioned on my original Post
 

Benefitsben

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this effectivley makes rmp existing as a regiment pointless if theres just a bunch of people with a high rank running around with cuffs able to arrest people whats the point in my job as rmp therefore this is a very bad idea even if rmp is relativley dead
 
this effectivley makes rmp existing as a regiment pointless if theres just a bunch of people with a high rank running around with cuffs able to arrest people whats the point in my job as rmp therefore this is a very bad idea even if rmp is relativley dead
After multiple pointed it out, and myself forgetting that elastics exist, instead of cuffs, COs could be given elastics to balance it out a bit
 
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Average MRP -supporter, unable to write a well thought feedback towards the original post, if you don't got anything improtant or useful to say, stfu, thank you for the input tho
''Average MRP -Supporter'' :geek:

But seriously, who are you to tell me to shut the fuck up. All I'm trying to say is that you should stop complaining and should just get promoted, what you're asking for is unneeded imo.
 
if you can reread my suggestion then you would know why this will f up
I understand it can be abused a lot, but with current state of server, especially on NATO side, where RCs and NHC aren't as active as NWO Side, having to rely on RMP/RC/NHC to arrest, is hard to come by, RMP is doing poorly, with unactive people, especially since in combat RMP/AOR aren't the best, as they are not really made for combat, people tend to leave, for a more combat orientated regiment, also SAS going around with cuffs can be worse, seeing how even PVTs? Get elastics, so I think giving COs+ elastics, atleast for time being until server revive and gets a much bigger playerbase, and more active higher ups, otherwise, if things don't change in order to adapt to current status and playercount, many stuff is gone die, regiments, and fun is already going away, as people are unable do shit, seeing how bad some changes have been, I noticed that changes that may affect other regiments or a whole faction tend to be denied easily, as people complain a lot, and stuff that won't impact the regiments at all, is accepted with ease, I know some stuff might kill regiments or be really bad for a regiment, but some changes are needed, and in some cases, temporary changes to adapt with current flow of server
 
''Average MRP -Supporter'' :geek:

But seriously, who are you to tell me to shut the fuck up. All I'm trying to say is that you should stop complaining and should just get promoted, what you're asking for is unneeded imo.
It's annoying as it is that there's a guy that never plays or played to begin with MRP, always doing -support, and being annoying, and it's not hard to either say "-support" alone or "-support and explain", if you aren't gone say anything useful, or constructive, then don't, better not to say anything or just leave it at -support, than come off as a a*shole
 
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- Support

Co's had cuffs before from what I have been told, they removed them because they got miss used ALOT. I think It's good that RC+ has cuffs because I rarely see them get abused. That's why I will be giving this suggestion a - Support
 
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Co's had cuffs before from what I have been told, they removed them because they got miss used ALOT. I think It's good that RC+ has cuffs because I rarely see them get abused. That's why I will be giving this suggestion a - Support
I mean fair enough, atleast u giving me a solid point to show it's not a good idea, if they previously had them, and were missued then I can understand it being a bad idea, but the thing is, if Cuffs did that, what about elastics? Would that be better and worth a try see if they are gone get used properly or not?
 
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Suggestion Denied

Hi @MLGMagicHoodini ,
Your suggestion has been denied.
COs are not getting cuffs as they are not RMP/AOR same for the elastics kidnappings are for STS/SAS.
CO/RC don't need to fly only SAS/STS RC get it as they are airborne trained regiments ISAF is not your a ground regiment.
Tac tab items are fine as is.
Thank you for taking the time to make a suggestion​
 
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