Content Suggestion Complete SOP Rework

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
This suggestion massively reworks SOP as a whole, including the removal of Nu-7, substantial rework of DEA, and a smaller rework to GSD. You're in for a long read.

As part of the SOP rework, Nu-7 would be removed in its entirety. Its duties would be split between DEA (GOI raids, surface management, GOI handling), GSD (compound/EZ protection, personnel protection), and Medical (surface combat medics).

This would be a removal of all Nu-7 jobs, ranks, and the MTF structure as a whole. The associated player models and other content would remain on the server.

Any current members of Nu-7 would be offered the option of transferring into positions within DEA or GSD, or into another MTF or department entirely.

To support parts of the rework, some model changes/additions would help.

To provide flexibility in use of the CAF (old Nu-7) models between both DEA and GSD, it would be helpful to have a new bodygroup or skin that can be used to differentiate GSD/DEA users of the models solidly for Foundation. Perhaps some kind of badge, colour variation, or other accessory. This should be something that makes sense for CAF to wear, which can be clearly differentiated at a medium distance. Using the current models, the specialist cap could be used vs the helmet (DEA/GSD respectively), but it would be nice to have something else that can be used to increase variability. Ideally, this would be compatible with all other bodygroups, so that e.g. the beret can be worn with it for CPT+/Manager+ without causing confusion.

For the standard DEA uniforms (used by Agent/Operative/Senior Agent), I would suggest a minor rework of the text on the uniform (changing it to say DEA instead of EFD, because EFD is literally not a correct acronym at all, and it isn't used by anyone on the server in RP). I would also suggest the addition of a skin option that allows the uniform to have either DEA markings/text or no markings/Canadian federal police markings, which would allow flexibility in their use to either represent the Foundation identifiably (e.g. for diplomatic meetings, or within the site), or to be used for undercover work in public surface areas.

Ideally, the standard DEA uniforms would also have some additional bodygroups or something that can be changed, to allow better differentiation between Agent and Senior Agent (and any future other roles).

As usual, it would also be very nice if there would be female model variants for all related models.

This is where the majority of the functional changes would take place.

DEA's position and duties would be altered. Specifically, the vast majority of GOI interaction/diplomacy would now be solely DEA's responsibility, with Nu-7's removal and a transfer of general diplomacy duties from Site Administration and Site Command to DEA. SA/SC would still be involved in general oversight, and likely be responsible for signing treaties and other such documents on behalf of the Foundation/site where necessary, but all work relating to general interactions with GOIs/POIs would be DEA's responsibility, as would all but the general outline and final signing of treaty documents - the details of such documents and treaties would be worked out by DEA, as would the documents themselves. SA/SC would have the final say, and give a general direction they expect DEA to take, but DEA would otherwise be fully responsible for handling external affairs.

DEA would also become fully responsible for combative GOI/surface interactions, whereas before they shared this duty with Nu-7. They might still involve other MTFs or forces where it makes sense (e.g. E-11 could back them up for SCP retrieval, or A-1 for retrieval of O5/OSA/A-1 hostages), but DEA would be the primary force involved in this, and the only one by default.

As part of this shift and increase in responsibility, DEA roles would be changed and expanded to support this. The main change here would be the creation of two paths within the department: combative, and diplomatic. Both paths would start with Agent/Operative, and be mostly rejoined at the Manager level.

The Agent/Operative role would have a different loadout set: one for infil/raids (TE-5, well-trafficked weapon types like soviet/civilian arms, Spy Card), and one for diplomatic protection/surface duties (weapons that make sense for Canadian federal police or CAF, interrogate tool). They would also have three sets of models to choose between: marked DEA, unmarked DEA, and CAF. Otherwise, these roles would remain mostly the same as their current ones. As noted, however, they would have the additional (somewhat already existing role) of protecting diplomatic staff.

Senior Agent would be the first job down the Combative path. It would remain mostly the same as it currently is, barring a few minor changes:
  • Option between marked DEA, unmarked DEA, and CAF models
  • Possible weapon replacements with ones that make sense for CAF/federal police - if current ones don't already
  • Possible slot increase and/or weapon stats improvement to allow them to properly fill in for the Nu-7 duties
  • Addition of Interrogate Tool to at least one loadout

Special Agent would be the next step on the Combative path. This position would remain largely the same. Field Agent would apparently need to remain separate (despite the whitelist management being a bit weird, given it's essentially a second loadout for SpA) due to the need to keep the sniper job's separate, low slot limit. Ideally, if this weren't an issue, I would have wanted to have the two merged into one job with separate loadouts. This might still be a possibility, given the removal of the Nu-7 Marksman and the possible need to replace it.

Field Agent would then remain as-is, though a possible change to the slot limit (or outright merge) may be sensible due to the removal of the Nu-7 Marksman. The only specific change I would suggest is the option to use the CAF Marksman/Ghillie model, in addition to (or in replacement of) the current model used.

On the Diplomatic path, the first role would be a new role: the Envoy. This would be a CL3 whitelisted role, of equal overall authority to Senior Agent, but with a focus on diplomacy rather than combat. This role would be a lower level role dedicated to diplomatic duties, which Agents/Operatives could be promoted to similar to Senior Agent, depending on their choices and proficiencies. The specific regular duties would be mostly decided by DEA leadership, but the overall idea is that it would be a lower level role responsible for maintaining relations (e.g. responding to comms promptly, regularly visiting or hosting friendly/neutral GOIs, completing diplomatic tasks assigned by DEA leadership, etc.) and being trained to go further in this path (so they would attend higher-level meetings where possible, do training, do tasks, etc.). The specs for this role would be:
  • CL3
  • Non-combative
  • Whitelisted
  • Model: Red Shirt, Black Tie (i.e. DEA Manager without the jacket)
  • Tools:
    • Clipboard
    • Camera
    • Personnel Tablet
    • Binoculars
    • Gestures
    • (Optional) Pistol (for self-defense in dangerous areas like surface)

Second on the Diplomatic path, on the same level as Combative's Special Agent, would be a new role: Ambassador. This role would be the level where major contributions to diplomatic relations begin. They would be involved in treaty negotiations, diplomatic decision making (to a limited extent), managing Envoys and Agents/Operatives in diplomatic operations, and working on documentation related to diplomacy (though not as much power in decision making on things like treaty details). They would be as trusted as Special Agents, but with diplomatic duties instead of combat ones. The specs for the job would be:
  • CL4
  • Non-combative
  • Whitelisted
  • Model: Red Shirt, Black Tie, Jacket and Waistcoat (i.e. same as Manager, but with Waistcoat added)
  • Tools:
    • Clipboard
    • Camera
    • Personnel Tablet
    • Binoculars
    • Gestures
    • (Optional) Pistol (for self-defense in dangerous areas like surface)
    • (Optional) Interrogate Tool (for parity with GOC Ambassador)
The paths would then merge again on the Manager role. This role would remain mostly the same spec-wise - combative, same model, generally same loadout, etc. -, though DEA leadership on each server could have differing internal roles and duties per server (e.g. maybe they might be differentiated into Combative and Diplomatic managers). They would keep the same duties as before, but would also, in addition, also have diplomatic duties and diplomatic management added on, as with the rest of the overall department - for Manager in particular, this means they would have major influence/authority in treaties and other decision making. For the Diplomatic path, this would be the point where the person regains combative status, so this would be a desirable role to get to for both the authority it already has, plus the fact that it maintains both Diplomatic and Combative duties, which people may be interested in. People that went down either path would likely need further training in their counterpart path before moving to this role.

The Director role would also remain mostly the same, with the addition of diplomatic duties. They would, alongside SA/SC, have ultimate authority over diplomatic decisions.


With all of the above, it may be sensible to then move DEA back under O5 command, instead of Site Administration, as they would be in a position where they have major influence over diplomatic relations that may be (lore-wise) Foundation-wide, rather than just at the site level. They would also take full control over what is currently SOP offices, which would simply become the DEA offices. It would also make sense to possibly expand the slots for DEA in general (perhaps 1/2 per job) to allow for the department to expand a bit as part of its expanded duties.

With the removal of Nu-7, a replacement would be needed for keeping EZ, Compound, and the surface area surrounding Compound and the Vents safe from raids and infils. This would be partly under DEA jurisdiction, given their role, but DEA focuses on external affairs, rather than site security. The same goes for personnel protection, which (although any combative department/MTF can do it, including GSD) is mostly done by Nu-7 as-is. GSD would be perfect for taking over these duties.

The main change I suggest here is the addition of a new role: Perimeter Security. This role would be a CL3 role, above or equal to Officer, which focuses on keeping EZ, vents, and compound safe from intruders. They would also be primarily responsible for combating raids, both at the perimeter and within the site. They would have the option of spawning in both Security Sector and Garage (and/or possibly SOP offices). The overall specs for this role would be as follows:
  • CL3
  • (Optional) Job approval or whitelist required - the former being more ideal, to balance keeping enough numbers while still maintaining some level of quality control (with the purpose of preventing poor quality RP players from causing problems on surface, which would be possible if only level was a barrier).
  • Model: CAF Operative (helmet, chest rig, etc., similar to Nu-7 Operative)
  • Tools:
    • Weapon Checker
    • Interrogate Tool
    • Gestures
    • Personnel Tablet
    • Pistol that makes sense for CAF
  • Loadouts:
    • Station:
      • Mid-long range assault rifle, sensible for CAF
      • (Optional) Deployable Shield
      • (Optional) Smoke Grenade
    • Patrol:
      • Mid-range SMG, sensible for CAF
      • Flashbang
      • Smoke Grenade
      • (Optional) Deployable Shield

In addition to this, I suggest that GSD SGT+ be given the choice between CAF and GSD models, so that SGT+ can also act as (and command) Perimeter Security. They would also then get the option to spawn in Garage, the same as them. the CAF models would be differentiated from Perimeter Security similar to Nu-7 Autorifleman, Officer, and Commander.

As this is a partial GSD rework/expansion, it may also be sensible to look at altering the structure/loadout regarding Officers and Response Units. These roles, along with Cadet+, would now have the duty of protecting personnel upon request, such as Site Administration. It may be sensible to tweak these jobs a bit to allow loadouts that better suit this duty. It may also be sensible to reconsider SRU's strange position as being harder to achieve than Officer, but lower clearance level. A merger, or clearance level upgrade for SRU, or some other such change, may make sense here, though such things have been suggested before and rejected.

As there would be a removed Nu-7 Medic role, with no additional roles within GSD or DEA to replace this, I suggest that Combat Medics be used to cover this duty. This is already the case for all other departments, with SL/CT previously denying other departments/MTFs medic roles as they want to focus that duty on Combat Medics for all areas, so this is consistent with that view.

To allow Combat Medics to better act as medics on surface, I suggest giving them Garage as a spawn location option, along with the choice between both the regular Combat Medic model and the CAF Medic model for surface duty.

Related, if possible, it might be a good idea to also give Combat Medics the option to spawn in HCZ. They currently, consistently, very rarely operate in HCZ, despite E-11 regularly needing them, and a spawn in HCZ would likely significantly improve this, as well as generally spreading Combat Medics further across the site, rather than their current concentration around medbay and D-block. They are already supposed to cover the whole site and support every department, this just makes that much easier and much more likely. This HCZ spawn could either be in E-11 bunks, or in the unused rooms that used to be HCZ AA/breach shelter.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
Various changes have been suggested to DEA, GSD, and Nu-7 over the years. Changes to Combat Medics (such as new medic roles for different departments) have also been suggested. None of them are quite the same as any part of this suggestion, and this suggestion overall covers a broad area, rather than minute individual changes. This is overall very different from any previous suggestion.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
  • Broader GSD presence and activity across the site, as was intended with the previous broader GSD rework
    • More for them to do, more places for them to be, more interest in the department in general (which often lacks people staying to progress within the department - many just go off into Nu-7 or other departments after reaching the required levels, which leads to a lack of quality leaders within GSD).
  • Broader range of duties for DEA
    • There is often a complaint that there's either nothing to do for extended periods, or that they just spend their entire time on DEA just handling random Parawatch and the like, and nothing actually interesting. This changes this state significantly.
    • This then makes DEA much more attractive to others to join, as there's more things people may be interested - maybe you join for the combative stuff, maybe you want to be diplomatic, either way there's options.
  • Removed overlap/redundant duties between DEA and Nu-7
    • Both currently overlap a lot, and it often causes issues both in individual incidents, and with both often not having enough to do for one full department/regiment. By essentially combining them, there should be more than enough for the new DEA to do, and less push/pull as different departments try to do the same duties with different chains of command and different goals.
    • As it is, both of them often have issues with activity and/or quality RP, and merging the somewhat redundant roles together should hopefully make a significant impact to this.
  • Expanded RP opportunities for DEA and surface players (GOC, Rangers, CI, etc.)
    • With the new Diplomatic branch, there is improved opportunity for RP both by the new DEA, and by other players interacting with them.
  • Shift more towards RP for surface, rather than just combat
    • Nu-7 is almost entirely combat-based, and DEA also is significantly focused on this. The move to only having DEA, which is already partly RP-focused, and an increase in the RP focus of the department, would significantly skew the focus more towards roleplay over combat, which is what the server is supposed to be about.
  • More sensible DEA models
    • Currently, DEA models are just walking infobreaches when interacting with civilians. The option for unmarked or police models would significantly improve this.
    • "EFD" is not an acronym anyone uses. If the uniforms are to have markings, they should at least be correct.
  • More options for models
    • Generally, for different roles, which can use CAF/department models for different uses
    • And also, female models, if added, would be a huge W for anyone that wishes to present in such a way.
  • Lighter general load for Site Administration
    • SA roles are supposed to be RP leaders, and generally be focused on managing the site in general. As it is, they often have a bunch of different things they need to do all at once, and it can be a huge hassle. By giving most of the diplomatic duties to DEA, SA can focus on that less and the site itself (and RP leadership) more.
  • Broader Combat Medic presence and duties
    • Currently, CMs often just stand around medbay and D-block, and other nearby areas, acting as GSD with a medkit. It is rare that they go to further areas of the site, such as EZ, compound, LCZS, or HCZ, and it leaves a lot of groups not covered by the medical department. By allowing them to spawn in Garage (and maybe HCZ as well), a lot more people should then have coverage, such as E-11, chefs, DEA, and SCUs.
  • Generally more sensible duty structure
    • GSD does site security. DEA does external affairs. Medical does medical. Less overlap, more cooperation, more coherent duties.
  • Decreased "job bloat"
    • According to Content Team, this is a significant issue that they try to balance. By this, they mean that there's too many jobs, and they don't want to add more and stretch the playerbase too thin. While this may be a possible issue, I don't personally agree that it is as bad/actively concerning as CT seems to say. Either way, this suggestion would, overall, likely result in a net removal of 5 jobs (give or take - depends on possible merger of Field Agent or not, or whether SRU gets removed/merged/etc., or possibly just CT tweaking the overall suggestion in implementation).
    • Given the current number of jobs seems to (based on previous communication with CT) be in a state where it's not a significant issue right now, but it is in a position where even a single new job is too much, this then gives room for up to ~4 new jobs in other places.

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
  • Significant short term disruption and upset, mainly for Nu-7 players
    • Some current Nu-7 may not wish for this to change at all. I would argue that this would, in the long term, benefit both RP in general and the players that might currently dislike the idea.
    • This would also cause some significant short term disruption, as the removal of the regiment and movement of a number of players/characters to other departments and regiments would take a lot of work, and would cause disruption in the short-term.
  • Removal of a well-known MTF as a playable element
    • While it may be attractive to have this, to be something for players to be interested in, I would argue that the benefits far outweigh this. Nu-7 itself also isn't the most attractive MTF as it is - the other three far outstrip it, and that does already show in general interest and activity.
  • Significant work to implement

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
While this suggestion would obviously take a fair amount of work to implement, and cause some significant short-term disruption, I would argue that the benefits far outweigh the negatives, both overall and in that they are longer-term rather than short-term. This would, in my opinion, lead to a significant increase in activity in the new DEA, a signficant improvement and increase in surface-related RP (which benefits all factions), and overall a much more coherent structure and set of duties for the departments involved. This would be a huge boost to roleplay in the long-term, both for the people within the departments involved, and for everyone else, who will be interacting with at least one of the departments in question. It would also possibly shift the server a bit more towards an RP focus, rather than a combat one, which would be welcome - both because of the DEA diplomatic changes, and because of the increase in interaction between departments/groups. I absolutely realise this would be a huge change, and would cause a lot of disruption right now, but I fully believe that it would be worth it in the long run, along with producing just generally a much more sensible RP structure for the Foundation.

EDIT: Though I do want all of this, in some form, to be done, I would like to leave the option open for CT to tweak this, or just simply take some individual elements from this, even if they don't want to carry out a full rework like this. There's a lot of ideas here.
 
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My overall idea for the CAF model use would be like this:

Combat Medic (Nu-7 Medic)
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GSD Perimeter Unit (Nu-7 Enlisted, Helmet)
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GSD SGT (Nu-7 Autorifleman)
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GSD CPT/DEA Manager* (Nu-7 Officer, CAF Beret)
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GSD Chief/DEA Director*
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DEA Agent/Operative/Senior Agent/etc.**
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*Would want some kind of clear separation between the two. Maybe different body gear, or some kind of indicator of difference (beret colour?).
**Would also want some kind of differentiation, though this is easier. There's a lot of bodygroup options already, including flipping the hat around, which is (afaik) more than the regular Agent/Senior Agent has.
 
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Honestly.... Yeah. I always felt it weird that Nu-7 is the regiment that does everything - In the sort of roleplay sense of having a "heavy hitter regiment" that you can call in to throw at any problem, then yes it makes sense; But gameplay-wise, server structure-wise, I feel like Nu-7 being so broad in what it is able to do kind of detracts from every other department? Like yes, Nu-7 generally should not be the first response to situations other than surface/EZ problems and CI raids, but generally speaking, they are able to participate in basically anything. And that jack-of-all-trades option, while a cool thing to have and is definitely a convenience for someone that doesn't want to hold a bunch of positions w/ requirements if they want to participate in a bunch of different things, I feel kinda makes a lot of other roles less special. Want to fight SCPs? While E-11 and SCU are the primary response for that, you can also just do that in Nu-7 if you want. Want to fight D-Block riots? While GSD are the primary response for that, you can also just do that in Nu-7 if you want. I agree that the range of what they are able to do is too broad and has significant overlap with too many other things to be reasonable.

There's really only a functional competitiveness between DEA & Nu-7 in this manner because DEA are not a VWar regiment and are therefore not beholden to the restriction that being in a VWar regiment imposes on them - And DEA don't have the duty range that Nu-7 do, so Nu-7 are not strictly outmoded by DEA, but Nu-7 are not outmoded by DEA either. They're in a sort of sidegrade stalemate.

And the best part about this is, if you want to still be a jack-of-all-trades type and not want to specialise in a specific role post-Nu-7-removal, you can just become a combat medic main.

I would also like to point out that, in previous suggestions regarding removing server content to this degree, the point was raised of area(s) of the map that are specifically devoted to such server content, would then be left loose without anything using it and in those conversations were cited as part of the hesitancy behind removing server content, to my recollection, the significance of that contribution being proportional to how much map content was devoted to its related server content - Which is not a subject I see explored here. I would wager that this presents itself as both a positive and a negative; A positive in that it then frees limited map space up to be used (and potentially reworked in a future update) for something else, and a negative in that it immediately creates this sort of null space in the RP environment... Or something along those lines? I forget the exact reasoning.

As far as implementing this in RP, I don't think there's reasonable room to do so. Nu-7 are already so well-established as the 'do most of the things' regiment, that IMO trying to impose restrictions on them from within RP, for the purposes of providing out-of-RP benefits for other departments such as improved join and retention rates... I feel like it doesn't slot. It doesn't gel properly. I agree that there are some massive, fundamental problems with Nu-7 as it is on the server and how it impacts the roleplay environment and unfortunately, I think that removal may be... While not the best remedy? Probably the most practical and feasible in this case. There is limited server content and limited possible server content and over the past couple years, we've really done nothing but expand while attempting to address the extant issues with existing content but ultimately getting nowhere and in some cases, making things even worse.

I don't particularly enjoy advocating for destructive solutions over constructive ones, but there are times when you have to be destructive in order to be constructive. What is presented here is compelling enough to convince me that this is a reasonable course of action in the interest of server health. :(
 
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I am personally unsure of what to think of this suggestion, on one hand I agree that DEA & Nu-7 should be somewhat changed regarding their overlap of duties and responsibilites, but I think that issue can be resolved by making DEA a completely diplomatic and RP based department, with Nu-7 being the combative arm of SOP (including the "Spy" jobs), instead of just completely removing Nu-7.

Nu-7 as a regiment should exist, if any part of SOP should be removed, it should be DEA, and Nu-7 should somewhat take on their responsibilites (GOC already have an envoy/attaché job, perhaps Nu-7 could have that instead of DEA?).

Overall, I agree with most of the listed changes, but I can change my mind.

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
This suggestion massively reworks SOP as a whole, including the removal of Nu-7, substantial rework of DEA, and a smaller rework to GSD. You're in for a long read.

As part of the SOP rework, Nu-7 would be removed in its entirety. Its duties would be split between DEA (GOI raids, surface management, GOI handling), GSD (compound/EZ protection, personnel protection), and Medical (surface combat medics).

This would be a removal of all Nu-7 jobs, ranks, and the MTF structure as a whole. The associated player models and other content would remain on the server.

Any current members of Nu-7 would be offered the option of transferring into positions within DEA or GSD, or into another MTF or department entirely.

To support parts of the rework, some model changes/additions would help.

To provide flexibility in use of the CAF (old Nu-7) models between both DEA and GSD, it would be helpful to have a new bodygroup or skin that can be used to differentiate GSD/DEA users of the models solidly for Foundation. Perhaps some kind of badge, colour variation, or other accessory. This should be something that makes sense for CAF to wear, which can be clearly differentiated at a medium distance. Using the current models, the specialist cap could be used vs the helmet (DEA/GSD respectively), but it would be nice to have something else that can be used to increase variability. Ideally, this would be compatible with all other bodygroups, so that e.g. the beret can be worn with it for CPT+/Manager+ without causing confusion.

For the standard DEA uniforms (used by Agent/Operative/Senior Agent), I would suggest a minor rework of the text on the uniform (changing it to say DEA instead of EFD, because EFD is literally not a correct acronym at all, and it isn't used by anyone on the server in RP). I would also suggest the addition of a skin option that allows the uniform to have either DEA markings/text or no markings/Canadian federal police markings, which would allow flexibility in their use to either represent the Foundation identifiably (e.g. for diplomatic meetings, or within the site), or to be used for undercover work in public surface areas.

Ideally, the standard DEA uniforms would also have some additional bodygroups or something that can be changed, to allow better differentiation between Agent and Senior Agent (and any future other roles).

As usual, it would also be very nice if there would be female model variants for all related models.

This is where the majority of the functional changes would take place.

DEA's position and duties would be altered. Specifically, the vast majority of GOI interaction/diplomacy would now be solely DEA's responsibility, with Nu-7's removal and a transfer of general diplomacy duties from Site Administration and Site Command to DEA. SA/SC would still be involved in general oversight, and likely be responsible for signing treaties and other such documents on behalf of the Foundation/site where necessary, but all work relating to general interactions with GOIs/POIs would be DEA's responsibility, as would all but the general outline and final signing of treaty documents - the details of such documents and treaties would be worked out by DEA, as would the documents themselves. SA/SC would have the final say, and give a general direction they expect DEA to take, but DEA would otherwise be fully responsible for handling external affairs.

DEA would also become fully responsible for combative GOI/surface interactions, whereas before they shared this duty with Nu-7. They might still involve other MTFs or forces where it makes sense (e.g. E-11 could back them up for SCP retrieval, or A-1 for retrieval of O5/OSA/A-1 hostages), but DEA would be the primary force involved in this, and the only one by default.

As part of this shift and increase in responsibility, DEA roles would be changed and expanded to support this. The main change here would be the creation of two paths within the department: combative, and diplomatic. Both paths would start with Agent/Operative, and be mostly rejoined at the Manager level.

The Agent/Operative role would have a different loadout set: one for infil/raids (TE-5, well-trafficked weapon types like soviet/civilian arms, Spy Card), and one for diplomatic protection/surface duties (weapons that make sense for Canadian federal police or CAF, interrogate tool). They would also have three sets of models to choose between: marked DEA, unmarked DEA, and CAF. Otherwise, these roles would remain mostly the same as their current ones. As noted, however, they would have the additional (somewhat already existing role) of protecting diplomatic staff.

Senior Agent would be the first job down the Combative path. It would remain mostly the same as it currently is, barring a few minor changes:
  • Option between marked DEA, unmarked DEA, and CAF models
  • Possible weapon replacements with ones that make sense for CAF/federal police - if current ones don't already
  • Possible slot increase and/or weapon stats improvement to allow them to properly fill in for the Nu-7 duties
  • Addition of Interrogate Tool to at least one loadout

Special Agent would be the next step on the Combative path. This position would remain largely the same. Field Agent would apparently need to remain separate (despite the whitelist management being a bit weird, given it's essentially a second loadout for SpA) due to the need to keep the sniper job's separate, low slot limit. Ideally, if this weren't an issue, I would have wanted to have the two merged into one job with separate loadouts. This might still be a possibility, given the removal of the Nu-7 Marksman and the possible need to replace it.

Field Agent would then remain as-is, though a possible change to the slot limit (or outright merge) may be sensible due to the removal of the Nu-7 Marksman. The only specific change I would suggest is the option to use the CAF Marksman/Ghillie model, in addition to (or in replacement of) the current model used.

On the Diplomatic path, the first role would be a new role: the Envoy. This would be a CL3 whitelisted role, of equal overall authority to Senior Agent, but with a focus on diplomacy rather than combat. This role would be a lower level role dedicated to diplomatic duties, which Agents/Operatives could be promoted to similar to Senior Agent, depending on their choices and proficiencies. The specific regular duties would be mostly decided by DEA leadership, but the overall idea is that it would be a lower level role responsible for maintaining relations (e.g. responding to comms promptly, regularly visiting or hosting friendly/neutral GOIs, completing diplomatic tasks assigned by DEA leadership, etc.) and being trained to go further in this path (so they would attend higher-level meetings where possible, do training, do tasks, etc.). The specs for this role would be:
  • CL3
  • Non-combative
  • Whitelisted
  • Model: Red Shirt, Black Tie (i.e. DEA Manager without the jacket)
  • Tools:
    • Clipboard
    • Camera
    • Personnel Tablet
    • Binoculars
    • Gestures
    • (Optional) Pistol (for self-defense in dangerous areas like surface)

Second on the Diplomatic path, on the same level as Combative's Special Agent, would be a new role: Ambassador. This role would be the level where major contributions to diplomatic relations begin. They would be involved in treaty negotiations, diplomatic decision making (to a limited extent), managing Envoys and Agents/Operatives in diplomatic operations, and working on documentation related to diplomacy (though not as much power in decision making on things like treaty details). They would be as trusted as Special Agents, but with diplomatic duties instead of combat ones. The specs for the job would be:
  • CL4
  • Non-combative
  • Whitelisted
  • Model: Red Shirt, Black Tie, Jacket and Waistcoat (i.e. same as Manager, but with Waistcoat added)
  • Tools:
    • Clipboard
    • Camera
    • Personnel Tablet
    • Binoculars
    • Gestures
    • (Optional) Pistol (for self-defense in dangerous areas like surface)
    • (Optional) Interrogate Tool (for parity with GOC Ambassador)
The paths would then merge again on the Manager role. This role would remain mostly the same spec-wise - combative, same model, generally same loadout, etc. -, though DEA leadership on each server could have differing internal roles and duties per server (e.g. maybe they might be differentiated into Combative and Diplomatic managers). They would keep the same duties as before, but would also, in addition, also have diplomatic duties and diplomatic management added on, as with the rest of the overall department - for Manager in particular, this means they would have major influence/authority in treaties and other decision making. For the Diplomatic path, this would be the point where the person regains combative status, so this would be a desirable role to get to for both the authority it already has, plus the fact that it maintains both Diplomatic and Combative duties, which people may be interested in. People that went down either path would likely need further training in their counterpart path before moving to this role.

The Director role would also remain mostly the same, with the addition of diplomatic duties. They would, alongside SA/SC, have ultimate authority over diplomatic decisions.


With all of the above, it may be sensible to then move DEA back under O5 command, instead of Site Administration, as they would be in a position where they have major influence over diplomatic relations that may be (lore-wise) Foundation-wide, rather than just at the site level. They would also take full control over what is currently SOP offices, which would simply become the DEA offices. It would also make sense to possibly expand the slots for DEA in general (perhaps 1/2 per job) to allow for the department to expand a bit as part of its expanded duties.

With the removal of Nu-7, a replacement would be needed for keeping EZ, Compound, and the surface area surrounding Compound and the Vents safe from raids and infils. This would be partly under DEA jurisdiction, given their role, but DEA focuses on external affairs, rather than site security. The same goes for personnel protection, which (although any combative department/MTF can do it, including GSD) is mostly done by Nu-7 as-is. GSD would be perfect for taking over these duties.

The main change I suggest here is the addition of a new role: Perimeter Security. This role would be a CL3 role, above or equal to Officer, which focuses on keeping EZ, vents, and compound safe from intruders. They would also be primarily responsible for combating raids, both at the perimeter and within the site. They would have the option of spawning in both Security Sector and Garage (and/or possibly SOP offices). The overall specs for this role would be as follows:
  • CL3
  • (Optional) Job approval or whitelist required - the former being more ideal, to balance keeping enough numbers while still maintaining some level of quality control (with the purpose of preventing poor quality RP players from causing problems on surface, which would be possible if only level was a barrier).
  • Model: CAF Operative (helmet, chest rig, etc., similar to Nu-7 Operative)
  • Tools:
    • Weapon Checker
    • Interrogate Tool
    • Gestures
    • Personnel Tablet
    • Pistol that makes sense for CAF
  • Loadouts:
    • Station:
      • Mid-long range assault rifle, sensible for CAF
      • (Optional) Deployable Shield
      • (Optional) Smoke Grenade
    • Patrol:
      • Mid-range SMG, sensible for CAF
      • Flashbang
      • Smoke Grenade
      • (Optional) Deployable Shield

In addition to this, I suggest that GSD SGT+ be given the choice between CAF and GSD models, so that SGT+ can also act as (and command) Perimeter Security. They would also then get the option to spawn in Garage, the same as them. the CAF models would be differentiated from Perimeter Security similar to Nu-7 Autorifleman, Officer, and Commander.

As this is a partial GSD rework/expansion, it may also be sensible to look at altering the structure/loadout regarding Officers and Response Units. These roles, along with Cadet+, would now have the duty of protecting personnel upon request, such as Site Administration. It may be sensible to tweak these jobs a bit to allow loadouts that better suit this duty. It may also be sensible to reconsider SRU's strange position as being harder to achieve than Officer, but lower clearance level. A merger, or clearance level upgrade for SRU, or some other such change, may make sense here, though such things have been suggested before and rejected.

As there would be a removed Nu-7 Medic role, with no additional roles within GSD or DEA to replace this, I suggest that Combat Medics be used to cover this duty. This is already the case for all other departments, with SL/CT previously denying other departments/MTFs medic roles as they want to focus that duty on Combat Medics for all areas, so this is consistent with that view.

To allow Combat Medics to better act as medics on surface, I suggest giving them Garage as a spawn location option, along with the choice between both the regular Combat Medic model and the CAF Medic model for surface duty.

Related, if possible, it might be a good idea to also give Combat Medics the option to spawn in HCZ. They currently, consistently, very rarely operate in HCZ, despite E-11 regularly needing them, and a spawn in HCZ would likely significantly improve this, as well as generally spreading Combat Medics further across the site, rather than their current concentration around medbay and D-block. They are already supposed to cover the whole site and support every department, this just makes that much easier and much more likely. This HCZ spawn could either be in E-11 bunks, or in the unused rooms that used to be HCZ AA/breach shelter.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
Various changes have been suggested to DEA, GSD, and Nu-7 over the years. Changes to Combat Medics (such as new medic roles for different departments) have also been suggested. None of them are quite the same as any part of this suggestion, and this suggestion overall covers a broad area, rather than minute individual changes. This is overall very different from any previous suggestion.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
  • Broader GSD presence and activity across the site, as was intended with the previous broader GSD rework
    • More for them to do, more places for them to be, more interest in the department in general (which often lacks people staying to progress within the department - many just go off into Nu-7 or other departments after reaching the required levels, which leads to a lack of quality leaders within GSD).
  • Broader range of duties for DEA
    • There is often a complaint that there's either nothing to do for extended periods, or that they just spend their entire time on DEA just handling random Parawatch and the like, and nothing actually interesting. This changes this state significantly.
    • This then makes DEA much more attractive to others to join, as there's more things people may be interested - maybe you join for the combative stuff, maybe you want to be diplomatic, either way there's options.
  • Removed overlap/redundant duties between DEA and Nu-7
    • Both currently overlap a lot, and it often causes issues both in individual incidents, and with both often not having enough to do for one full department/regiment. By essentially combining them, there should be more than enough for the new DEA to do, and less push/pull as different departments try to do the same duties with different chains of command and different goals.
    • As it is, both of them often have issues with activity and/or quality RP, and merging the somewhat redundant roles together should hopefully make a significant impact to this.
  • Expanded RP opportunities for DEA and surface players (GOC, Rangers, CI, etc.)
    • With the new Diplomatic branch, there is improved opportunity for RP both by the new DEA, and by other players interacting with them.
  • Shift more towards RP for surface, rather than just combat
    • Nu-7 is almost entirely combat-based, and DEA also is significantly focused on this. The move to only having DEA, which is already partly RP-focused, and an increase in the RP focus of the department, would significantly skew the focus more towards roleplay over combat, which is what the server is supposed to be about.
  • More sensible DEA models
    • Currently, DEA models are just walking infobreaches when interacting with civilians. The option for unmarked or police models would significantly improve this.
    • "EFD" is not an acronym anyone uses. If the uniforms are to have markings, they should at least be correct.
  • More options for models
    • Generally, for different roles, which can use CAF/department models for different uses
    • And also, female models, if added, would be a huge W for anyone that wishes to present in such a way.
  • Lighter general load for Site Administration
    • SA roles are supposed to be RP leaders, and generally be focused on managing the site in general. As it is, they often have a bunch of different things they need to do all at once, and it can be a huge hassle. By giving most of the diplomatic duties to DEA, SA can focus on that less and the site itself (and RP leadership) more.
  • Broader Combat Medic presence and duties
    • Currently, CMs often just stand around medbay and D-block, and other nearby areas, acting as GSD with a medkit. It is rare that they go to further areas of the site, such as EZ, compound, LCZS, or HCZ, and it leaves a lot of groups not covered by the medical department. By allowing them to spawn in Garage (and maybe HCZ as well), a lot more people should then have coverage, such as E-11, chefs, DEA, and SCUs.
  • Generally more sensible duty structure
    • GSD does site security. DEA does external affairs. Medical does medical. Less overlap, more cooperation, more coherent duties.
  • Decreased "job bloat"
    • According to Content Team, this is a significant issue that they try to balance. By this, they mean that there's too many jobs, and they don't want to add more and stretch the playerbase too thin. While this may be a possible issue, I don't personally agree that it is as bad/actively concerning as CT seems to say. Either way, this suggestion would, overall, likely result in a net removal of 5 jobs (give or take - depends on possible merger of Field Agent or not, or whether SRU gets removed/merged/etc., or possibly just CT tweaking the overall suggestion in implementation).
    • Given the current number of jobs seems to (based on previous communication with CT) be in a state where it's not a significant issue right now, but it is in a position where even a single new job is too much, this then gives room for up to ~4 new jobs in other places.

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
  • Significant short term disruption and upset, mainly for Nu-7 players
    • Some current Nu-7 may not wish for this to change at all. I would argue that this would, in the long term, benefit both RP in general and the players that might currently dislike the idea.
    • This would also cause some significant short term disruption, as the removal of the regiment and movement of a number of players/characters to other departments and regiments would take a lot of work, and would cause disruption in the short-term.
  • Removal of a well-known MTF as a playable element
    • While it may be attractive to have this, to be something for players to be interested in, I would argue that the benefits far outweigh this. Nu-7 itself also isn't the most attractive MTF as it is - the other three far outstrip it, and that does already show in general interest and activity.
  • Significant work to implement

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
While this suggestion would obviously take a fair amount of work to implement, and cause some significant short-term disruption, I would argue that the benefits far outweigh the negatives, both overall and in that they are longer-term rather than short-term. This would, in my opinion, lead to a significant increase in activity in the new DEA, a signficant improvement and increase in surface-related RP (which benefits all factions), and overall a much more coherent structure and set of duties for the departments involved. This would be a huge boost to roleplay in the long-term, both for the people within the departments involved, and for everyone else, who will be interacting with at least one of the departments in question. It would also possibly shift the server a bit more towards an RP focus, rather than a combat one, which would be welcome - both because of the DEA diplomatic changes, and because of the increase in interaction between departments/groups. I absolutely realise this would be a huge change, and would cause a lot of disruption right now, but I fully believe that it would be worth it in the long run, along with producing just generally a much more sensible RP structure for the Foundation.

EDIT: Though I do want all of this, in some form, to be done, I would like to leave the option open for CT to tweak this, or just simply take some individual elements from this, even if they don't want to carry out a full rework like this. There's a lot of ideas here.
+ support [ONLY FOR DEA REWORK] I agree DEA Should Mainly focus on relationship I mean it's Whole purpose is to investigate/matain diplomatic relations with Groups Of Interest Mabye make This A Dea Rework Instead ( a role Dpt diplomats limit 2 and a suit old manager model but mabye a mask?)
 
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On a more detailed note in comparison to roleplay, Nu7 does actually do a lot of roleplay for surface currently.

We have our own three NCO sections which are required to join if you want to be promote, these are known as: Junior Administrative Officers, Adjutants and Quartermasters. They all have their respective roleplay duties and we encourage people to work on these consistently, bringing in a lot of roleplay.

An example of this below:

Quartermasters document our chemicals, relations and establish stuff such as in character chemical trades. We also have a program set up with medical to begin training nu7 medics in field specific based medical, such as CPR, defibrillating and more which is up for discussion. This would all be done in rp, rather than doing just a medical license on trainee, etc.

Overall, I dont think this rework really has any point in happening.