Denied Equipping Guns During Reality Bending

[Stealth]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Stopping the ability for people to equip guns whilst using inversion

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
- More realistic
- Would Stop CI abusing this constantly
- Makes no sense why your able to do it in the first place and you retain the reality manipulation without the SWEP out

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- CI Complaining
- Genuinely none

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
It would make combat with Type Blue more realistic and more fair to both sides, granted that this Type Blue should make a different within combat.

 

[MaliciousPacifism]

-support
Okay, I hold a CI position, but it’s genuinely not the only reason why I’m -supporting this, as of right now, is that CI TB only has a storage of 100 energy, inversion costs 15 energy every 5ish seconds, so they get it for roughly 30ish seconds and it anchors the TB in place, it’s genuinely fairly balanced and can be easily negated with a reality anchor which is readily available to those with CL3 positions, 90% of the time if foundation has properly set up at the F2 elevator or any other choke point, the CI TB is easily countered, if you see a code 1 assume we have a TB and grab reality anchors, it’s literally quicker to kill than our Jugg. And yes it has reality break to remove the anchor but it costs them half their energy so it’s not a good idea.

 

[MaliciousPacifism]

-support
Okay, I hold a CI position, but it’s genuinely not the only reason why I’m -supporting this, as of right now, is that CI TB only has a storage of 100 energy, inversion costs 15 energy every 5ish seconds, so they get it for roughly 30ish seconds and it anchors the TB in place, it’s genuinely fairly balanced and can be easily negated with a reality anchor which is readily available to those with CL3 positions, 90% of the time if foundation has properly set up at the F2 elevator or any other choke point, the CI TB is easily countered, if you see a code 1 assume we have a TB and grab reality anchors, it’s literally quicker to kill than our Jugg. And yes it has reality break to remove the anchor but it costs them half their energy so it’s not a good idea.

Oh and a second note, TB can’t get revived, it spawns them as a recruit with a trainee AKM, so TB is a one and done role.

 

[Naffen]

+support, cant even reality anchor it cause you cant get close enough before you get killed by an unkillable player with PKM or Energy Weapons

 

[pinhead]

I agree with cen, but I've heard some people say that it's already been ruled as failrp or bug abuse by certain SL members since inversion is "supposed to be you focusing all of your energy into that ability" and therefore it would make no sense why you can pull out a heater during it, but that hasn't been announced or officially clarified.

Also it's called "going super saiyan" in the official CI playbook

 

[Change Z. "Somebody"]

-support
I agree with cen. reality anchors exist not our fault you can't use it. if it becomes an issue just spawn an anchor in every CI raid or just cuff the TB if he has his swep out.

 

[Chad]

-support theres nothing wrong with it

 

[MaliciousPacifism]

+support, cant even reality anchor it cause you cant get close enough before you get killed by an unkillable player with PKM or Energy Weapons

Place it behind a door? It has a big range, you don’t gotta place it right next to em.

 

[Michael Dzhetnikov]

-Support, you can just crowd around them with shields or cope.

 

[grunger]

-

You forgot to mention TYPE-GREEN, who would be severely crippled by such a change due to having only two 40-energy abilities that can only kill two players at a time. Generally not a huge problem if you can coordinate with 2 or 3 other people to alternate reality anchor placements.

 

[Bill Nye The Guy]

-support
"no negatives" Immediately shows this suggestion hasn't been thought out as much as it could have been
Iit's extremely risky to do this in the first place - CI inverting themselves leaves them left behind from the rest of the team, unable to move, and extremely easy to kill once inversion ends

As others have said:
TG would be nerfed out of this
You can coordinate with reality anchors
There's a chance this is all a bug anyway, have you asked any staff about this?

 

[Eizaas]

+support

 

[Lightsoulist]

Nah gamer -support
The range for reality anchors effecting type blues, both dclass and ci, is REALLY long.
Also it’s indirectly effecting type green which is in a ok-ish state rn which is no bueno.

 

[Stealth]

-support
"no negatives" Immediately shows this suggestion hasn't been thought out as much as it could have been
Iit's extremely risky to do this in the first place - CI inverting themselves leaves them left behind from the rest of the team, unable to move, and extremely easy to kill once inversion ends

As others have said:
TG would be nerfed out of this
You can coordinate with reality anchors
There's a chance this is all a bug anyway, have you asked any staff about this?

Considering that Staff allow and do this themselves during raids would bring the assumption that it is allowed. However this suggestion has shown that its not apparently allowed with different ruling taken place.

 

[Dinklesprinkle]

Considering that Staff allow and do this themselves during raids would bring the assumption that it is allowed. However this suggestion has shown that its not apparently allowed with different ruling taken place.

CI Are famous for non-stop breaking rules because of how they play and how they take any advantage no matter how against the rules it is so a rule for this wouldn't really do anything lmao

 

[KingViper115]

-Suppprt

long answer: you literally have multiple ways of countering type blue , make sure everyone get anchor reality in their inventory at all times. Anchor reality range against type blue is absurdly long plus it fucks with their vision thus making them panic and lose focus and easily defeated.

Short answer: think smart.

 

[Wonka]

+support

 

[Evil]

-Support
no type blue is fine, no need to nerf a branch that has to deal with 5 different branches

 

[Mark Belgrum (Dutch)]

+Support
seems pretty goofy that this can happen.

 

[Stealth]

You forgot to mention TYPE-GREEN, who would be severely crippled by such a change due to having only two 40-energy abilities that can only kill two players at a time. Generally not a huge problem if you can coordinate with 2 or 3 other people to alternate reality anchor placements.

This is mainly focused on type blue, Type green cannot equip guns anyways so it wouldn't affect them