Name: Ganch
Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:71315085
Please state if it is for SCP-RP UK or USA: UK
Level of appeal (2 or 3): 2
Have you already carried out a level 1 appeal - please give details: I have carried out my level 1 appeal yes
Who did you carry out the level 1 appeal to, and where: Dutch, on teamspeak
Rank demoted from: Site Advisor
Who demoted you?: Site Director Dutch
Date of demotion?: 21/01/2024
What is the case against you?:
Is this true?: Yes
Prior to this demotion, have you ever been demoted?: Only from MTF ranks
Please list any previous roleplay demotion appeals: N/A
What is your side of the story?: It is easier to start with the situation that lead to my demotion.
On the 21st of January, we had been discussing going into war with GOC since they had done multiple things wrong. I hopped on the server to do negotiations about the war with the GOC and Site Manager Mark "Billy" Bob had been talking with them. I added myself to the conversation as I have had previous run ins with the LTGEN Swindler, who we were negotiating with. Billy told me on teamspeak to not do this, and I voiced my disagreeance with it however let him deal with the negotiations. However for reasons I am not completely sure of, Billy had to go and let me and the other SA on site deal with the negotiations, so I continued talking with them over comms.
After a while, I had negotiations being started up, however Dutch decided that war should be started, without any sort of RP situation beforehand to cause it, and I voiced my disagreeance on the Discord chat yet again, you can see them in the spoiler
I had at this point talked with DEA, Nu-7 and GOC about it and asked their opinions about a war, DEA wanted war, Nu-7 wasn't completely agaisnt it and GOC wasn't agaisnt it either. At this point I wanted to first do a RP situation about negotiations with the GOC, and then depending how that will go, declare war or simply not declare it. I fully disagreed with Dutch and Billy on this situation as we all should encourage RP to happen, and they simply said to not do any RP and just go on with the war. Before I was able to leave compound I was dragged on TS and told that I was being demoted, and therefore declared war on the GOC as per the SA's wishes.
Unprofessionality accusations
Unprofessionality here refers to my actions on discord and on the OOC chat according to Dutch,
The shitposting he reffered to was some videos and gifs i had posted in E-11 CO channel, which were not interrupting any serious conversation and did not clog up the channel
Dutch had striked me for general conduct being bad, and only provided these 2 examples. I for myself dont see any problem with these as they are in a discord chat where banter is allowed and I was not mean or condescending in any way while still continuing the important chat we had going on then. He told me my ingame conduct was also bad, but failed to provide any examples of this.
Accusations that i do not fullfill my duties
Dutch believes that I am unable to fullfill the duties within this role, this is simply infact false.
I had done all of these duties, I had interacted with departments, I had created RP for multitude of individuals, I had helped everyone whenever they had needed it. Not at any point of time Dutch or Billy had told me that I was failing in my job as a Site Advisor, resulting me in knowing that I had done my duties correctly.
Possibility of bias?
After Dutch had demoted me, he informed me that "I am very sarcastic" and that "It is very annoying", resulting me in thinking that Dutch wanted to also demote me because he did not like the way I acted on discord
Demoting me from an IC role because of how I act on OOC platforms when I had broken no rules is simply wrong. I had acted in roleplay while ingame and always wanted to roleplay every single situation out.
Conclusion
In conclusion I believe this demotion was made in poor judgement, We all here are volunteers and are here to have fun first and foremost. Demoting me just because they dont like how I act on OOC platforms is simply wrong, when I broke no OOC rules and continued doing my duties up to standard. If the people handling this appeal have any questions they are always free to contact me on discord and I will provide further information.
Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:71315085
Please state if it is for SCP-RP UK or USA: UK
Level of appeal (2 or 3): 2
Have you already carried out a level 1 appeal - please give details: I have carried out my level 1 appeal yes
Who did you carry out the level 1 appeal to, and where: Dutch, on teamspeak
Rank demoted from: Site Advisor
Who demoted you?: Site Director Dutch
Date of demotion?: 21/01/2024
What is the case against you?:
Prior to this demotion, have you ever been demoted?: Only from MTF ranks
Please list any previous roleplay demotion appeals: N/A
What is your side of the story?: It is easier to start with the situation that lead to my demotion.
On the 21st of January, we had been discussing going into war with GOC since they had done multiple things wrong. I hopped on the server to do negotiations about the war with the GOC and Site Manager Mark "Billy" Bob had been talking with them. I added myself to the conversation as I have had previous run ins with the LTGEN Swindler, who we were negotiating with. Billy told me on teamspeak to not do this, and I voiced my disagreeance with it however let him deal with the negotiations. However for reasons I am not completely sure of, Billy had to go and let me and the other SA on site deal with the negotiations, so I continued talking with them over comms.
After a while, I had negotiations being started up, however Dutch decided that war should be started, without any sort of RP situation beforehand to cause it, and I voiced my disagreeance on the Discord chat yet again, you can see them in the spoiler
Unprofessionality accusations
Unprofessionality here refers to my actions on discord and on the OOC chat according to Dutch,
Accusations that i do not fullfill my duties
Dutch believes that I am unable to fullfill the duties within this role, this is simply infact false.
Possibility of bias?
After Dutch had demoted me, he informed me that "I am very sarcastic" and that "It is very annoying", resulting me in thinking that Dutch wanted to also demote me because he did not like the way I acted on discord
Demoting me from an IC role because of how I act on OOC platforms when I had broken no rules is simply wrong. I had acted in roleplay while ingame and always wanted to roleplay every single situation out.
Conclusion
In conclusion I believe this demotion was made in poor judgement, We all here are volunteers and are here to have fun first and foremost. Demoting me just because they dont like how I act on OOC platforms is simply wrong, when I broke no OOC rules and continued doing my duties up to standard. If the people handling this appeal have any questions they are always free to contact me on discord and I will provide further information.
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