Content Suggestion Give ISD a keycard printer on US server

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Advil Smith

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Places a keycard printer in ISD commissioner bunks.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
No, not through a content suggestion

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
Gives the department most likely to use the printer the printer
Allows ISD to maintain cover while disguised

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
Abuse- Commissioners are a pretty trusted role and they are infact above ECAs/OSAs who can also print cards. I trust all of them to use them in a professional way.

Raid target- Site admin has same amount of keycard doors, it has the same amount of coded doors. Also very few ci have tried to use keycard printer as a raid target as it isn't that useful without bio cards.

Being in a spawn room- Site admin has their keycard printer right next to offices, atleast on the USA side I am open to having a whole separate room for it if need be. I won't speak for UK

Taking away from interactions with SA/FCOM- Not really sure how much of an interaction this is, from my experience and others its being told they are busy or sitting in a room waiting 2 minutes for a keycard to print then leaving. Not much interaction of value and it makes sense for isd to have it.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:

Hello, I have conveyed to multiple SL that ISD requests a keycard printer, I was told to make this suggestion after discussions. ISD currently relies on dead bodies and Site command to provide them. I have met with multiple ISD and they find site command often aren't around or too busy to help provide keycards. ISD also rarely will find keycards on the ground. We aren't CI and just kill people for them we have to wait for a massive breach to happen to get that chance most of the time.

ISD as I said would use the keycard printer the most, we would like to be given the chance to use it without the current problems we have with it.

Thank you and I will answer any questions you may have.
 
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+Support

One of ISD’s core responsibilities is enforcing the Foundation Legal Code, and a major part of that enforcement relies on our ability to effectively disguise ourselves during investigations. Disguises only work when they are complete... and that includes having the correct keycard for the role we’re assuming.

Right now, that process is one of the biggest bottlenecks in ISD operations. There have been numerous situations where agents needed keycards, but SA or assistants were either busy or unavailable. Looking for keycards only gets you so far because you have no decision on what the role is on that card. That is also assuming you find one. The other part to this is the effort it takes to get a keycard at the moment is not light. There is a print time and cooldown for each card printed. It takes time to go to SA offices, wait for someone to get there, go get the keycard printed. I usually feel like a burden going back and asking for another one for a new disguise.

This isn't an ask for just convenience and for the ability to just print keycards because we want to. Frankly I know I am going to be sitting in the room constantly printing keycards for disquises for our ISD members. Honestly I don't mind it as long as it helps them with their duties. The reason why this matters is because it will push agents to use disquises and be able to do some of the operations and work we wanted to do without having another party pay with their time to print them.

In the end, the Foundation entrusts ISD with significant operational power... and with that power comes the responsibility to act efficiently, discreetly, and within the FLC.
There will be processes and procedures put in place for the keycard printer if one is provided to ensure no abuse comes from this and high reprecusions from anyone that does.

Thank you for your time on this matter.
-Johnny 'Burrito' Broom
 
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Advil Smith said:
I addressed this in the suggestion.... often they are busy or not on...

Also ISD is literally going to use this the most, it just makes sense.
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...Well that speaks more to a problem with US SA/FCOM than anything else, but I guess if getting a keycard printer is found to be an acceptable patch-over for this, then I guess it could be fine?

If it's reasonable for this to potentially be US-only, fine - But in the case of parity, my intuition for ISD UK also getting a printer, is that this isn't a good idea for us as in my experience SA/FCOM are normally fairly responsive when needed about these things, also concerns for abuse, etc., but speculate with my limited knowledge as I might, I personally can't fully speak to how appropriate this is, so I'll just tag some of the people UK-side that I feel most appropriate to loop in on this suggestion as it could concern them directly, and I think they'd have the most poignant thoughts on this and/or any potential ideas as to how you could handle this instead/in the likely event this is denied:
@Eric Godman @TheTrueS0nic @Broda @ionboy64 @Paul Salsburg @Cain Morris
 
Emilia Foddg said:
...Well that speaks more to a problem with US SA/FCOM than anything else, but I guess if getting a keycard printer is found to be an acceptable patch-over for this, then I guess it could be fine?

If it's reasonable for this to potentially be US-only, fine - But in the case of parity, my intuition for ISD UK also getting a printer, is that this isn't a good idea for us as in my experience SA/FCOM are normally fairly responsive when needed about these things, also concerns for abuse, etc., but speculate with my limited knowledge as I might, I personally can't fully speak to how appropriate this is, so I'll just tag some of the people UK-side that I feel most appropriate to loop in on this suggestion as it could concern them directly, and I think they'd have the most poignant thoughts on this and/or any potential ideas as to how you could handle this instead/in the likely event this is denied:
@Eric Godman @TheTrueS0nic @Broda @ionboy64 @Paul Salsburg @Cain Morris
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Even if that way did work why do you think it wouldn’t make sense for ISD to have it? I’ve addressed every possible negative I thought of do you have any others?
 
Advil Smith said:
Even if that way did work why do you think it wouldn’t make sense for ISD to have it? I’ve addressed every possible negative I thought of do you have any others?
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Not personally, no. But I know people on UK who have enough experience and knowledge as ISD to be able to pitch in and say whether there may be problems with this or otherwise vindicate your idea. That's why I tagged them. Either way, the problem will be solved 🤷‍♀️
 
Vxnt said:
Not really a content suggestion. If SL said no, then it’s kind of just a no. This would be decided by SA and Site Command at MOST.
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Ok I kinda have to respond to this, I went to SL and after deliberation they said to make a content suggestion, hope this helps. Site command doesn’t have control over this… it’s been prevented by SL in the past.

That’s my final reply ok..
 
BlueDorito 'Burrito' said:
+Support

One of ISD’s core responsibilities is enforcing the Foundation Legal Code, and a major part of that enforcement relies on our ability to effectively disguise ourselves during investigations. Disguises only work when they are complete... and that includes having the correct keycard for the role we’re assuming.

Right now, that process is one of the biggest bottlenecks in ISD operations. There have been numerous situations where agents needed keycards, but SA or assistants were either busy or unavailable. Looking for keycards only gets you so far because you have no decision on what the role is on that card. That is also assuming you find one. The other part to this is the effort it takes to get a keycard at the moment is not light. There is a print time and cooldown for each card printed. It takes time to go to SA offices, wait for someone to get there, go get the keycard printed. I usually feel like a burden going back and asking for another one for a new disguise.

This isn't an ask for just convenience and for the ability to just print keycards because we want to. Frankly I know I am going to be sitting in the room constantly printing keycards for disquises for our ISD members. Honestly I don't mind it as long as it helps them with their duties. The reason why this matters is because it will push agents to use disquises and be able to do some of the operations and work we wanted to do without having another party pay with their time to print them.

In the end, the Foundation entrusts ISD with significant operational power... and with that power comes the responsibility to act efficiently, discreetly, and within the FLC.
There will be processes and procedures put in place for the keycard printer if one is provided to ensure no abuse comes from this and high reprecusions from anyone that does.

Thank you for your time on this matter.
-Johnny 'Burrito' Broom
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+ Support I agree with Burrito Man.
 
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+support anyone I’ve talked to definitely gets tired of printing keycards for people as the system isn’t the… fastest. I’ve probably put about 100 keycards in our keycard basket to use for disguises, but it doesn’t help when it gets reset daily, or our agents need to be disguised as an officer+ or whatever else they require for our gameplay loop and all we have are techie and trainee cards.
 
-Support

Perhaps the better thing would be to allow access to a pre-existing printer to Dpt Directors or other trusted Sr CL4 personnel, but I do not believe that ISD needs a printer in the same vein as DEA needing a printer, considering they would realistically lose theirs more frequently due to Infils/DCs on GOI.

Yes as a QOL this sounds amazing on paper, but the reality is it would be abused, more so than if a D-Class with a CL4 somehow gets into an office with a printer and starts mass printing cards without detection. Operatives/Agents would seek "Permission" to "Legally" gain access to it, abuse it citing that one instance they were allowed to in order to complete an operation or investigation and attempt to mass print cards.


I recommend just requesting IC access to certain printers for certain ranks for situations where the printer is needed (SA Offices printer for just Dpt Directors of ISD/DEA or something maybe?)
 
Tenebraeum said:
-Support

Perhaps the better thing would be to allow access to a pre-existing printer to Dpt Directors or other trusted Sr CL4 personnel, but I do not believe that ISD needs a printer in the same vein as DEA needing a printer, considering they would realistically lose theirs more frequently due to Infils/DCs on GOI.

Yes as a QOL this sounds amazing on paper, but the reality is it would be abused, more so than if a D-Class with a CL4 somehow gets into an office with a printer and starts mass printing cards without detection. Operatives/Agents would seek "Permission" to "Legally" gain access to it, abuse it citing that one instance they were allowed to in order to complete an operation or investigation and attempt to mass print cards.


I recommend just requesting IC access to certain printers for certain ranks for situations where the printer is needed (SA Offices printer for just Dpt Directors of ISD/DEA or something maybe?)
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The office on US is as secure as the site admin one.

1 CL4 door
1 coded CL4 door

Additionally printing keycards is a biometric action unless you hack it.

I don’t think DEA needs foundation keycard printer because they don’t disguise as foundation ever and that makes 0 sense.

Claire! said:
-Support

I don’t think having a keycard printer here is the play. If US Site Admin/Assistants are busy, that’s a server side issue. ISD should be working with SA/FCOM to utilize keycard printers if they need. All I believe this will do is bring a lot more mingy behavior with the keycard printer.
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This suggestion is entirely for US server but due to SL wanting it to be made a content suggestion here I am, I’d trust my current commissioners with the keycard printer over most if not all assistants.Additionally roles like ci delcom have keycard printer which is pretty much equivalent to a foundation jr cl4 imo.


As for talks with SA/FCOM there isn’t much they can control as it’s a role that’s usually busy. Would be a lot easier if ISD could just use the printer.


I’m sorry but I have to reply to some of these comments as pretty much all of them are from UK, UK operates very differently than US and this suggestion is for US
 
Jack Edwards (Spoon) said:
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I don't trust ISD at all with the ability to just, print any keycard they like without going through someone else
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On what basis or what point did we as ISD leadership loose your trust? The keycard printer is not going to be used by a random ISD agent/operative or investigators and inspectors which are both whitelisted roles. It is going to be reserved for commissioners + which are SR. CL4 staff.
 
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