Rule Suggestion Give ISD Operatives a different rank in the Global Site Hierarchy

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KingOfCommon

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
This suggestion would make it so that ISD Operatives are given a place in the site Hierarchy
The change would look something like this

From:
Overseer Council | Ethics Committee
O5/Ethics Assistants (when under direct orders from O5/Ethics)
Site Administration (Site Director, Manager and Advisor)
Department Directors | Department Chiefs | MTF Commanders
Agency Managers | MTF Commissioned Officers (Major)
O5/Ethics Assistants (when not under direct orders from O5/Ethics)
Executive Researchers | Medical Consultants | Ambassadors | Special Agents | Security Captains | MTF Commissioned Officers (LT and CPT)
Internal Affairs | External Affairs
MTF Operative
Security Staff
All other personnel

To:
Overseer Council | Ethics Committee
O5/Ethics Assistants | A-1/O-1 Operatives (when under direct orders from O5/Ethics)
Site Administration (Site Director, Manager and Advisor)
Department Directors | Department Chiefs | MTF Commanders
Agency Managers | MTF Commissioned Officers (Major)
O5/Ethics Assistants (when not under direct orders from O5/Ethics)
Executive Researchers | Medical Consultants | Ambassadors | Special Agents | Security Captains | MTF Commissioned Officers (LT and CPT)
Internal Affairs | External Affairs | ISD Operatives (when not under direct orders from O5/Ethics)
MTF Operative
Security Staff
All other personnel

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
Not that I have seen but the search mechanic isnt great

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
People are less confused on how ISD rank alongside others
ISD have a rule based standing to use when/if they try to order others
Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
Some newer ISD may try and order people they have no need to
Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Although ISD are technically CL 3.5 They have CL4 knowledge and are trusted to act appropriately and are usually more experienced players with the site and server, it also gives a definitive place to ISD as they arent supposed to take orders from non site command but technically the rules make's it seems like they could when they are lumped into the "MTF Operative" category, also to clarify this change wouldnt allow ISD CSG or lower to order any CL4, just make it so that they could by the rules definition order any CL3, which should already be the case as they may need to do so for their duty, and as for the 'when under Site Command Orders" placement that just makes sense coinciding with assistants as when given orders they are acting as that Site Command branch and need the authority to bypass any other rank restrictions should it be called for.
 

Gizzmo

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Honestly just remove this its dumb. It doesn't take into account abunch of important aspects like jurisdiction and majority of the server doesn't acknowledge it.
 
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Alpa

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-support you aint above other mtf cuz ur a-1 🤣
Also just not how the hierarchy works, you still can't be ordered by IA as an A-1
 

Bohemia

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THUMBS DOWN. (Hierarchy in rules poop, shouldn't be a rules thing)
"Some newer ISD may try and order people they have no need to" (This is called being killed with hammers)
ALSO everyone below LT is not human!

ALSO -support
 
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Dr Random K.

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-support
Dont want enlisted think they have rights
But as was pointed out, that doesnt fully reflect it anyways
 

"Recker"

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Some ISD, respectfully, already treat others like crap because they're in ISD or new to ISD and are on a high horse (ISD people will agree lol). Don't need to give them more of a reason to do that.

-Support
 
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Blackknight95

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Suggestion Response



Hi King,

Thanks for taking the time to make a suggestion,

We will be denying this. Being in A1 and O1 does not intrinsically make you more important than someone else, and it's baffling to me why you think being in them gives you extra rights. This would do more harm than good in the long run.

Also for future reference, A1 and O1 are not included in the whole "Getting a bump up in authority if under orders" thing assistants do.


Kind regards,
Mercer​
 
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