Denied Give Nu7 Helmets Please

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FrostByte

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Gives all Nu7 jobs helmets with the current models already in game. Differences can be made to distinguish each job such as goggles for Officer, No goggles for operative, Helmet w/ mic for Medic and no goggles, goggles for Officer with mic helmet.

You can also change vests around for easier distinguishability. Helmets and masks aren't the only thing that distinguish people.

NOTE: These models do have NVGs and Glasses included in the pack inside of the server that can be used, as shown below.1680896728792.png

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
+Visually Appealing
+All of Nu7 wants it
+No effort needed to change it
+No model change required
+Can be done in a day.

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
-Absolutely none.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Nu7 has been trying to get new models, or atleast helmets, for a long time now. For some reason, the content team continues to deny it. I figured I would be a little more specific in this suggestion to give Nu7 helmets. I'm pretty sure everyone in the regiment would welcome this change, and that little to no one would object the change out of the regiment. It is such a small, easy to do quality of life change that can make Nu7 feel better as a regiment.

For further perspective; Nu7 is the only job beyond Security Cadet that doesn't have helmets on all of their jobs. This doesn't make sense, considering Nu7 is a battalion-sized completely combat-orientated task force that works for a very well funded, large, world-wide black-ops organization. Nu7s entire purpose is to fight the Foundations wars with guns and vehicles. Why would they not have even the most basic protective gear for the bulk of their forces? You need to be an NCO just to have the most basic protective gear used in war; Helmets. This doesn't make sense in any world. It's a simple change, an easy change, a visually appealing change, and something Nu7 has asked for over and over and it doesn't hurt or change anything for anyone beyond Nu7 looking better. The content team has denied really cool model changes for Nu7 and Nu7 is one of the few that doesn't have custom models now, we could atleast get helmets and look like the army force that Nu7 is.

Thanks for listening to my ted talk. I'd really like to see this change happen, it's been an on-going battle since the server began just to get a simple change like this. It'd be great if we could finally get it. Giving Nu7 helmets was even a suggestion accepted over a year ago when I suggested A1 and O1 got helmets. Management said yes, gave O1 and A1 helmets, then forgot about Nu7 entirely. It's been the same ever since. Give Nu7 some love, they need it. <3
 
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Sunari "Nasus" Taiyo

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+Support, i feel excluded with out the helmet compared to the rest of the facility
 

Skittles

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+Support
More RP about hitting head really hard when they leak o5 in comms!
 

Bill Nye The Guy

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-support
helps distinguish between rank:
you can see from one look "this guy's a private, probably shouldn't be an issue" or "this guy has full headgear, probably a marksman run away screaming and crying" just like CI
you can always change the bodygroups if you have pac aswell
pretty sure nu7 models are going to be changed very soon anyway
 

TTVmaccwill

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+support
Adding helmet's would be a greatly appreciated addition to the somewhat bland and somewhat generic models we have as
NU-7
Though I think that specialist should remain as is with the lack of head gear being the most recognizable part of the specialist model that kind of symbolizes that you’re new to the regiment And a common for some light hatred shenanigans from your fellow NU-7.
Every thing else suggested though I 100% support and would love to see

-Nu-7 CSG
 
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SquirrellyJr

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+Support.
Nu-7 needs a model update. It's kinda bland compared to all the other regiments who have way cooler outfits.
 

FrostByte

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-support
helps distinguish between rank:
you can see from one look "this guy's a private, probably shouldn't be an issue" or "this guy has full headgear, probably a marksman run away screaming and crying" just like CI
you can always change the bodygroups if you have pac aswell
pretty sure nu7 models are going to be changed very soon anyway
Well by that same logic, what about E-11? Or A-1? They all wear very similar uniforms with one or two exceptions.

Regardless, Nu-7 shouldn't have absolutely no helmets or basic protective gear as the Foundations primary military force just because "It's easier to tell if someones an NCO or not". You can easily tell that via name badge, different gear, goggles, gas masks, body equipment, etc. It'd be very easy to tell a private apart if you gave them just a helmet with no goggles, that's a very obvious detail. It simply doesn't make sense in any world to not have helmets. The Foundation is not a budget organization, there's no good reason that I can think of to take away basic yet essential gear from your combat force. You shouldn't have to pay just to have a decent looking model either that some people may even have disabled anyway.

Nu7 is the only whitelisted division in the entire Foundation to not have helmets. Every other regiment has helmets and it poses 0 issues at all, because it's such a simple change and it harms no one. Nu7 shouldn't be any different or neglected in terms of models compared to other regiments.
 

FrostByte

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+support
Adding helmet's would be a greatly appreciated addition to the somewhat bland and somewhat generic models we have as
NU-7
Though I think that specialist should remain as is with the lack of head gear being the most recognizable part of the specialist model that kind of symbolizes that you’re new to the regiment And a common for some light hatred shenanigans from your fellow NU-7.
Every thing else suggested though I 100% support and would love to see

-Nu-7 CSG
The issue with this is that Operatives would still be stuck with no helmet until they reach LCPL and thats only if they want to be a Medic. They would be the bulk of the Task Force, so it'd be even more important to ensure they have protective gear realistically. Plus, why intentionally make a specific job or rank ugly just because? Nu7 is a whitelisted branch, you have to pass a tryout and quiz and prove yourself to enter. They shouldn't have to look like underfunded terrorist cell soldiers while every other task force and job other than Security get to look good or cool yknow? It can easily make people deterred from joining the regiment if they were on the fence about it.

Plus, it would be obvious if someone's a private if you just didn't give them goggles. It's a lot more noticeable than you think, even from a distance.
 

Bill Nye The Guy

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Nu7 is the only whitelisted division in the entire Foundation to not have helmets.
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(screenshot from 10.12 never forget) i'm not in nu7 anymore but iirc autoriflemen and marksmen both get helmets which helps distinguish them- it's just a game man you don't need to think so deep in it
besides, nu7 are (hopefully) getting epic new models which almost all have headgear
 

FrostByte

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(screenshot from 10.12 never forget) i'm not in nu7 anymore but iirc autoriflemen and marksmen both get helmets which helps distinguish them- it's just a game man you don't need to think so deep in it
besides, nu7 are (hopefully) getting epic new models which almost all have headgear

"It's just a game" is the laziest justification for intentionally shitty looking models I've seen thus far. It is a game, I'm glad you pointed that out I was confused on if it was real life or not before that comment. Being a game is not even a point to be made that's relevant. The vast majority of people support this suggestion and that's for good reason. Having helmets objectively makes the game look better to the majority of people. I've only ever had to explain so much about it because Nu7 and others have been begging for this for a long time and it gets denied for no good reason. So now, I'm explaining in detail why it's a stupid idea to deny it.

And I already addressed the distinguishability of the models three times so far. Feel free to re-read my original post and replies if you forget me addressing them. As for the new models, those aren't coming. Nu7 tried to get them too, but the Content Team denied it because they have a similar color to ERT and O1 even after receiving OVERWHELMING support from the ENTIRE community, being one of the most upvoted suggestions I've ever seen. Despite this, the content team chose to ignore the community and deny it based on their own opinion.(which is also a very goofy reason to deny it for anyways. The Foundation is one large organization, not every regiment needs to be specifically color coded to that regiment. They're meant to look somewhat similar).
 
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FrostByte

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Nu-7 dont need helmet, their thick skulls provide enough armour
- sincerely, ex Nu-7 COM
perish

Also to clarify for any further concerns for distinguishability for any future viewers;
These models have NVGs and glasses built into them. You can switch different jobs to have NVGs or not, have glasses and no goggles, or neither. Lots of options, we only use like half of them.
 
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