Denied Increasing raid timer for CI

[chris tomatoe poop]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
[Response here] Increases raid cooldown for CI to 2 hours to match GOC or adding a cap on how many raids they can do in a day

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
[Response here] we wont have constant breaches of scp's from when ci raid this will then allow for there to be more rp this will also be more beneficial since when CI does raid the size of the new hcz its difficult to
1) locate the CI when they are in hcz
2) when the CI are finally found its difficult to challange them when they are trying to breach stuff due to the time we have to spend getting back to them and the ammount of numbers they have
this still means that when they do raid they will still have the mass breach they want since they are at such and advantage

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
[Response here] CI will probably end up crying since they cant mass breach every 45 minutes.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
[Response here] since it will mean the server can be a more rp focused like it should be and not just a breach and resonating simulator.

 

[Man of Culture]

they have control over lcz and sc and will set up checkpoints there and then they do escorts and all the other reasons that all nu-7 are not in the garage waiting for ci to raid with btw also unable to stop since they just use god druggs and run at 100mph past them while being imortal

I am very confused, they have control over LCZ when GENSEC and nearly some part of any MTF is there too. The only thing they can do there is make checkpoints somewhere in LCZ (most likely EZ-LCZ or LCZ-CS) and maybe watch over 914 when E-11 isnt? SC should not be under direct eye under any MTF other than O-1 or when it is directly needed. Nu-7 is and should be entirely based on surface operations.

 

[Free "Spirit"]

I am very confused, they have control over LCZ when GENSEC and nearly some part of any MTF is there too. The only thing they can do there is make checkpoints somewhere in LCZ (most likely EZ-LCZ or LCZ-CS) and maybe watch over 914 when E-11 isnt? SC should not be under direct eye under any MTF other than O-1 or when it is directly needed. Nu-7 is and should be entirely based on surface operations.

@Jonas Enry as what i stated to you earlier these raids could easily be countered by nu-7 being on the surface and not guarding a site admin or guarding core sector or whatever else

 

[chris tomatoe poop]

why would they have to patrol/escort if there arent any threats? (CI)

i dont know why your acting as if ci dont exist if they get nurfed there will still be threats ci will still raid they would just have to wait longer

 

[Wib Wubbles]

ci will still raid they would just have to wait longer

You still aren’t realising that this would kill CI, raiding is CI’s primary duty.

 

[Free "Spirit"]

i dont know why your acting as if ci dont exist if they get nurfed there will still be threats ci will still raid they would just have to wait longer

no one in CI will want to wait 2 hours mate everyone would just leave chris remember when CI raid timer was 1 hour what happened

the entire ci regiment left the game

 

[Nirvan]

-support
MTF/DEA outnumber CI 2-3x every raid and you get big advantages , if CI are breaching every raid its a skill issue.

 

[Rito Munro Fraser]

As a CI I can say the D Class part doesn't make sense, although:
-Less Raids - Less CI - Less Nu7/DEA - Less need for GOC
Congrats! You've just killed 2 Factions, a Regiment and an Entire Group!
This is a LOT of the player base that would be affected, all for what? Your job to be Easier?
-Oh dear lord last time CI's cooldown was 1h 30 Mins it did not end well for the CO team, I wasn't there and I don't think you were there but its effects on who are CO's are still lasting up to today.

I support this suggestion primarily as a researcher. Ever since the new HCZ Update pushed out (and it's amazing don't get me wrong), there's been constant C1/C5s, to the point where I've been trying to conduct the same test ever since, and without fail, it is always interrupted by a CI raid or a SCP breach.

 

[Insurgent oreo]

I support this suggestion primarily as a researcher. Ever since the new HCZ Update pushed out (and it's amazing don't get me wrong), there's been constant C1/C5s, to the point where I've been trying to conduct the same test ever since, and without fail, it is always interrupted by a CI raid or a SCP breach.

I agree with what you are saying however if E-11 actually guards the Secondary HCZ entrance our raids won't be so successful No hate against E-11

 

[Free "Spirit"]

this suggestion could easily be solved by getting nu-7 to guard surface instead of lcz core sector or whatever https://streamable.com/d8cyjr

this video proves my point old NU-7 used to stomp CI raids now its the opposite

 

[Niox]

i dont know why your acting as if ci dont exist if they get nurfed there will still be threats ci will still raid they would just have to wait longer

no, a longer cooldown would make CI more inactive, making more people inactive, killing CI, as no one would be on too raid

 

[Darren]

I can 100% tell you that this will kill CI for sure also -Support

every regiment has its up and downs i remember in october november CI used to be so weak MTF tossed ci around almost constantly and MTF E-11 and NU-7 were at some of their best states they have ever been in when CI was nearly at its lowest point ever did CI want nerfs and buffs for them and mtf yes they did just like now

the server always goes from Strong CI weak mtf to Strong mtf Weak CI i would say CI is one of its best states since OLD ci command which old ci command was better but this current CI is also good

their raids are great and the people are experienced while both mtf nu-7 have fell off due to Ethics demoting some of there Best COS such as lequise and although most of nu-7 COs got their ranks back the commander did not and unfortunatly NU-7 suffered from it

and with nu-7 losing a majority of its long and experienced players they either left the server joined CI or joined another mtf NU-7 is right now at its lowest point and E-11 right now is really struggling

and CI has been doing a come back since november where the changes CI command have made have finally paid off and with a almost full list of new active and highly experienced new delcoms and deltas etc CI has almost doubled in activity skill and experience and is now returning to its former state so right now what mtf need to focus on is improving and getting better before these changes are considered that is just my point of view on the situation

 

[Rito Munro Fraser]

I can 100% tell you that this will kill CI for sure also -Support

every regiment has its up and downs i remember in october november CI used to be so weak MTF tossed ci around almost constantly and MTF E-11 and NU-7 were at some of their best states they have ever been in when CI was nearly at its lowest point ever did CI want nerfs and buffs for them and mtf yes they did just like now

the server always goes from Strong CI weak mtf to Strong mtf Weak CI i would say CI is one of its best states since OLD ci command which old ci command was better but this current CI is also good

their raids are great and the people are experienced while both mtf nu-7 have fell off due to Ethics demoting some of there Best COS such as lequise and although most of nu-7 COs got their ranks back the commander did not and unfortunatly NU-7 suffered from it

and with nu-7 losing a majority of its long and experienced players they either left the server joined CI or joined another mtf NU-7 is right now at its lowest point and E-11 right now is really struggling

and CI has been doing a come back since november where the changes CI command have made have finally paid off and with a almost full list of new active and highly experienced new delcoms and deltas etc CI has almost doubled in activity skill and experience and is now returning to its former state so right now what mtf need to focus on is improving and getting better before these changes are considered that is just my point of view on the situation

You are missing the point, this isn't an issue that has come slowly, this is a problem specifically because of the new HCZ Update, which is making C1s and C5s so much slower to deal with.

 

[Darren]

You are missing the point, this isn't an issue that has come slowly, this is a problem specifically because of the new HCZ Update, which is making C1s and C5s so much slower to deal with.

no i believe your missing the point MTF E-11 and MTF NU-7 right now have very incompetant and shit decisions that needs to be fixed by the CO team not by the content team

 

[conspiracycarl]

-support would hurt Ci too much and give dea and nu7 way less stuff to do

 

[Rito Munro Fraser]

no i believe your missing the point MTF E-11 and MTF NU-7 right now have very incompetant and shit decisions that needs to be fixed by the CO team not by the content team

The way you are phrasing it, you are claiming that the issue is purely due to a shift in prevelance from MTF over to CI, but this wasn't an issue prior to the HCZ update, meaning it is in fact not just due to CI being better, but rather due CI getting buffed through the HCZ Update.

 

[Jam]

1 objective ci and both foundation can claim it if claimed by foundation its not brought past floor 2 say stored in the floor 2 storage room and then ci hide it in there base raids then involve getting this item back or having it as a building where you get something for capuring it should 1 stop ci raiding just to breach scps and still gives the nu-7 and dea there rp and stops the constant breaches stoping all the foundations rp since ci wont need to enter past floor 2

you know better then me foundation will give 0 fucks and not do anything like that. CI base is unraidable because of its layout

 

[Luft]

Suggestion Denied​

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Hi @chris tomatoe poop

Thanks for taking the time to make a server suggestion.

At this very moment, we do not believe that this suggestion is required. Especially with the current limitations that CI has regarding certain types of breaches, for instance SCP-008. With this being said, the overall health of MTFs/GOIs would be significantly harmed if this were to pass.

Your suggestion will now be locked and marked as denied.​