Network Leadership required Kill Cams

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Recker

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove?
I believe kill cams should have two options,
- Remove everyone from seeing your kill cam.
- Disable yourself from seeing kill cams.

Both of these options would bring you and others immediately to the respawn screen, with no killcam being visible.

Why?
In every game I've played including this server, kill cams are used as an advantage. You snipe someone on surface? They immediately know where you are. You headshot a Gensec from the bathrooms? They immediately know who has the gun. The only purpose a kill cam seems to have served is at the benefit of the person killed.

Accounting for VIP Kill Cams
My original suggestion was going to be to remove kill cams altogether, but I acknowledge that some people have spent copious amounts of money on them. So instead, my suggestion is to disable other people from seeing your kill cam or to disable being shown kill cams for yourself. This means that it's a win win for everyone. VIPs get to keep their VIP kill cams, and those who don't want to be shown or show their own kill cams don't have to.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
No!

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
- More User Customization
- Those who have kill cams disabled: Prevents meta-gaming using the kill cam.

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- None, really other than VIP kill cams would be slightly less valuable because some people may not see it at all.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
As I said above, I think kill cams are used for nothing but meta-gaming. Most servers do not have kill cams at all. You get killed, the camera stays on your dead corpse, and then you respawn. I think having the option to disable other people from seeing your kill cam would be amazing.
 

Jack G

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I’ll explain my -support because apparently primarily MRP players can’t comment on SCP players suggestions or something without people complaining.
SCP is a heavy role play based server where meta gaming is actually punished properly. Kill cams are a cool and unique thing that the server has as well as a good revenue stream because they effect everyone. More money = more bounties = more updates. Yes, my -support is weighted 50% for money.
I can tell you now, no one on MRP purchases Kill Cams because they show the rag doll of the body and even that doesn’t work properly because the camera is no where near the body itself. Because there are no NLR rules during war/its impossible to actually manage, it means that if you were to go back to where the kill cam shows the enemy is, you can just kill them and it kinda was unmanageable.

If there are bugs with the Kill Cams report them, if they’re laggy report them. For example, we have FOBs and HQs which act as a separate spawn point to the default spawn areas where if you skip the Kill Cam animation, sometimes it instantly spawns you in your Bunks where you’d then have to swap jobs and swap back.

Going back onto the SCP topic. I just feel like they’re unique. You guys have PAC 3’s to show off, SCP’s to show off the mayhem that they’re causing as you’re dead. It gives personality.
 

Recker

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If there are bugs with the Kill Cams report them, if they’re laggy report them. For example, we have FOBs and HQs which act as a separate spawn point to the default spawn areas where if you skip the Kill Cam animation, sometimes it instantly spawns you in your Bunks where you’d then have to swap jobs and swap back.
I'd recommend going back and reading the entire suggestion. I address literally everything you're listing.
 
apparently primarily MRP players can’t comment on SCP players suggestions or something without people complaining.
Absolutely correct, it's not a change that affects the entire Network, rather is an existing issue on SCP-RP, why would MRP players -support it who have never played the server or experienced these issues first-hand?

Kill cams are a cool and unique thing that the server has as well as a good revenue stream because they effect everyone. More money = more bounties = more updates.
The server's income is hardly based off of killcams and they provide little monetary gain to the Network. Trying to pull the argument of "the network needs money to continue providing you updates" in relation to this demonstrates that there is no basis for your negative support on this suggestion.
 
+Support

Allows players who paid to show off while giving those who would rather not have players see them in a kill cam can obviously turn it off for themselves only. I think disabling kill cams entirely would harm the bottom line too much to be accepted, but I definitely wanna turn my own kill cam off so players dont find me as easily when I kill them or w/ever
 

Miguel

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People spent lots of money on killcams - not that I agree with that but would be a waste of a cool server feature