Make it so GM's can see when a breach is about to happen

['Dutch']

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Add the ability for GM's to see the breach timer. The reason for this is because then we can work around said timer and this will result in less events needing to be 'paused' or full out stopped because of a breach.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
I don't believe so.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
- Would improve GM quality of life with planning an event.
- This would make it so that less events need to be paused or stopped because of automatic breaches.

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
It could be abused by GM's to metagame breaches.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
It is a small QOL update that would improve the planning and execution of events.

 

[Niox]

This will be abused by at least someone.

 

[Aphex]

You can ask any Admin+ prior to an event, they'll most likely tell you.

 

[Tylenol Smith]

-support this would be abused and you can simply ask when it is

 

[Guts]

yall aint special

ask sl if you want to know

 

[Zen]

yall aint special

ask sl if you want to know

-support this would be abused and you can simply ask when it is

You can ask any Admin+ prior to an event, they'll most likely tell you.

Getting SL to respond even as staff or GM or whatever often doesn't work. A lot either are tabbed out or busy or whatever, or just outright ignore you.

+Support on this, though maybe limited to GM+/SGM+. Ideally, it should also be something that you have to click an extra button or just run an entirely separate command to view so that:

1. You viewing the breach queue is logged to potentially identify abuse
2. GMs don't accidentally see the breach queue while looking at the SCP tab of F4 when they don't want to and spoil it for themselves.

 

[Tylenol Smith]

Getting SL to respond even as staff or GM or whatever often doesn't work. A lot either are tabbed out or busy or whatever, or just outright ignore you.

+Support on this, though maybe limited to GM+/SGM+. Ideally, it should also be something that you have to click an extra button or just run an entirely separate command to view so that:

1. You viewing the breach queue is logged to potentially identify abuse
2. GMs don't accidentally see the breach queue while looking at the SCP tab of F4 when they don't want to and spoil it for themselves.

My suggestion is keep yelling at them to listen to you and if they don't keep yelling and stuff. Usually works or they block you

 

[Ganch]

This will be abused by at least someone.

-support this would be abused and you can simply ask when it is

gms have the ability to lag the shit out of server with props and stuff and are generally trusted to not do anything dumb but you draw the line on knowing when the next "stop all rp" announcement comes by lmao

You can ask any Admin+ prior to an event, they'll most likely tell you.

yall aint special

ask sl if you want to know

ah yes just cause u can bother someone else to tell the information for you instead of you just having the information on hand is a valid counterpoint

 

[Niox]

gms have the ability to lag the shit out of server with props and stuff and are generally trusted to not do anything dumb but you draw the line on knowing when the next "stop all rp" announcement comes by lmao

this is far easier to abuse without being caught than "lagging the shit out of the server"

 

[Ganch]

this is far easier to abuse without being caught than "lagging the shit out of the server"

yes bro the gms will abuse seeing when scps will breach by dming every single E-11 "GO TO 966 HE WILL BREACH IN 2 MINUTES"

 

[Broda]

My face when Game Masters+ can do all this
+Support

 

[Tylenol Smith]

yes bro the gms will abuse seeing when scps will breach by dming every single E-11 "GO TO 966 HE WILL BREACH IN 2 MINUTES"

Why are you arguing with actual GMs..

 

[Tylenol Smith]

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My face when Game Masters+ can do all this
+Support

Yeah like niox said that shit is easy to tell, the breach checking would have to be logged then if u want it not to be abused

 

[Tylenol Smith]

yes bro the gms will abuse seeing when scps will breach by dming every single E-11 "GO TO 966 HE WILL BREACH IN 2 MINUTES"

What if the GM is in E-11?

 

[BeepBop]

+Support. I say keep it SGM+, but most GMs are trusted since they have to apply and be recognized as trusted members of the community. I don’t see why they shouldn’t have the privilege to view a breach. Or At least The timer could be visible in a limited or delayed way (e.g., “approximate time” instead of exact countdown).

What if the GM is in E-11?

Staff can check when someone sends a PM, I'm pretty sure. So if that does happen, the person can be removed from their position. Even if the player's breach is metagamed, you can allow the SCP to spawn in a random area and let them continue.

 

[Kisuke]

+Support on this, though maybe limited to GM+/SGM+. Ideally, it should also be something that you have to click an extra button or just run an entirely separate command to view so that:

1. You viewing the breach queue is logged to potentially identify abuse
2. GMs don't accidentally see the breach queue while looking at the SCP tab of F4 when they don't want to and spoil it for themselves.

yuh i agree with this if they gotta use a command in chat and itl tell you when the next breach is so people can see if gm tryna abuse it out of events
+Support

 

[Bananolas]

-Support
Not needed and will be abused (i will need to deal with gm abusing it 50% sure :/ )

 

[Zen]

yuh i agree with this if they gotta use a command in chat and itl tell you when the next breach is so people can see if gm tryna abuse it out of events
+Support

imo the best way of implementing it would be a toggle in the F4 SCP menu that just reveals/hides the queue, and it defaults to hidden.

 

[Evil]

I don't think GM are server leadership and people like to go rogue and do stupid shit so

-support

 

[Zen]

I don't think GM are server leadership and people like to go rogue and do stupid shit so
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-support

Oh no, a GM could spoil like one breach before they would immediately get removed. Such long lasting and severe consequences.