Phone Call RP metagaming

[Swein]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Removing names or adding into rules that you can't use the name shown on the phone for RP purposes, or adding the rule in game so people don't have to use the forum, i promise most people aren't checking forums. maybe i missed it but the name removal is still relevant.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
I'm sure it has been suggested, it should be taken into consideration

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
1. Assist in better roleplay experience
2. So people aren't getting in trouble for Metagaming when there's no rule for it

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
i guess not knowing who you're talking to but doesn't matter if you get in trouble for metagaming

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
To better the RP experience and so players aren't getting talked to for breaking rules that aren't written rules.

Side note: how many people need to repeat the same message about format... give someone time to see their notification and edit the message.

 

[ArcherOfLegend]

Please use the format, thank you!

 

[Wolff]

+Support

I appreciate the deviation from using a format

 

[YandereMuffin]

7.02 Phone lines - When a phone is used, players may only utilize the locational information, players are not allowed to use the name or rank of whoever is calling unless this is discussed in RP.

https://civilnetworks.net/community/threads/scp-rp-staff-rulings.23582/

Please use the format @Swein, this is noted in the staff rulings section of the rules however the idea for removing the name entirely may still be able to considered.

 

[Speff]

+support for not using format

 

[Zen]

Just remove the name that's shown. You can't use it, so why is it even there.

 

[soren moyai]

+Support!

Just remove the name that's shown. You can't use it, so why is it even there.

I never understood this either. outright removal would be better.

 

[Abu Muhammad]

+support i fw this guys confidence he diddnt even reply, and remove the names in the phones why are they even there

 

[Tiago]

Hello!

As said before, please follow the format or this suggestion will be denied within 24 hours.
The format can be found here.

 

[Avery Snow]

+Support

Just have it show Steam ID.

 

[Emilia Foddg]

Just remove the name that's shown. You can't use it, so why is it even there.

>Be me, phones can't display names
>Call somewhere, someone picks up
>Yell slurs down the line
>Hang up
>Staff can't punish me because they have no way to know it was me

+Support for adding SteamIDs to phones or replacing name with SteamIDs so that moderation is still possible

 

[Yeke]

Just remove the name that's shown. You can't use it, so why is it even there.

In case they decide to spam racial slurs at you

 

[GameRush_cz]

In case they decide to spam racial slurs at you

In that case, why not keep the steamID instead of a name, prob not in the same place but yk, place it on the side/corner.
Yes, it would still allow for meta if someone looks hard enough but at least it wont be immidatelly obvious whos calling.
And staff can still do their thing, since they can work on steamid basis.

 

[Zen]

In case they decide to spam racial slurs at you

I think the others' suggestion of just showing the SteamID would probably work for this, then.

 

[Swein]

i think displaying the SteamID is useful too instead of outright removal of all identifiers as others have stated it can still be used for moderation purposes

 

[Emilia Foddg]

Although I should also raise the discussion point of the chat command /phone - Which basically allows text chat players to communicate with people over phones;

Since, in our ideal implementation that we've thought up, how would /phone's name display work? Would it just be [PHONE], [PHONE] and then their SteamID (which would be superfluous as it would be showing in the middle of the screen instead of the called name), or something like [PHONE] Caller? I like that one, personally

Additionally

Removing names or adding into rules that you can't use the name shown on the phone for RP purposes, or adding the rule in game so people don't have to use the forum, i promise most people aren't checking forums. maybe i missed it but the name removal is still relevant.

I think you should rewrite this - As people have said, it's already a rule

and you can already access it pretty easily in-game without needing to use the forum (in the conventional sense) with the really cool new ESC menu changes:


I think that to maximise your chances here, you should focus on the "replacing the caller name with SteamID to reduce metagame while retaining ability to moderate" aspect of this.

 

[Swein]

Although I should also raise the discussion point of the chat command /phone - Which basically allows text chat players to communicate with people over phones;

Since, in our ideal implementation that we've thought up, how would /phone's name display work? Would it just be [PHONE], [PHONE] and then their SteamID (which would be superfluous as it would be showing in the middle of the screen instead of the called name), or something like [PHONE] Caller? I like that one, personally

Additionally

I think you should rewrite this - As people have said, it's already a rule

and you can already access it pretty easily in-game without needing to use the forum (in the conventional sense) with the really cool new ESC menu changes:
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I think that to maximise your chances here, you should focus on the "replacing the caller name with SteamID to reduce metagame while retaining ability to moderate" aspect of this.

thats why i put the last part of "maybe i missed it"

 

[Emilia Foddg]

thats why i put the last part of "maybe i missed it"

I'm aware - But at this rate, you should be wary of this potentially being denied with a response that's along the lines of "This is already an existing rule and players can easily access it via the ESC menu changes."