Denied Refund addendum.

[Sayo]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
This suggestion is to allow staff to refund SCPs or Type Blues due to client side crashes based off of their discretion. I would most like to see it refunded in terms of TBs or SCPs that were not hostile and participating in roleplay, not for ones that were actively hostile or being re-contained.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
Not that I'm aware of. I did a quick search through the forums but couldn't find anything similar to this suggestion.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
Allows for continuation of roleplay
Fosters a stronger community.
Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
Potential abuse

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
No one likes to lose out on a good Roleplay because of something outside their control. And with how LTARP is already against the rules I don't really see many people trying to abuse skipping the queue times, especially if the person requesting it would be able to have the people they were roleplaying with corroborate their request.

 

[Emilia Foddg]

...staff don't already refund for this? weird. it's long been a staff position that because of the heavy skew towards combative behaviour on the server, that non-combative interactions would be better promoted over combative ones.

this feels a bit specific and more like an issue with something not being enforced properly than something to be changed.

regardless,
+Support

 

[Sayo]

...staff don't already refund for this? weird. it's long been a staff position that because of the heavy skew towards combative behaviour on the server, that non-combative interactions would be better promoted over combative ones.

this feels a bit specific and more like an issue with something not being enforced properly than something to be changed.

regardless,
+Support

I've crashed twice while roleplaying in a restricted role. (Once as 7722 and once as a Type Blue) and both times they told me they only refund if it was a problem on the server end. I understand this is a very niche scenario but I feel they should offer refunds in this case.

 

[Dayumian max]

The problem is, someone can just leave while breached and then blame it on a crash getting a free refund. This has the potential to easily abuse.

 

[Sayo]

The problem is, someone can just leave while breached and then blame it on a crash getting a free refund. This has the potential to easily abuse.

Yes I thought of that, that's why I bring it up in the niche scenario of crashing while in the middle of an RP. I don't think it should be refunded if you were just hostile.

 

[Alan Froud]

+ Support​

 

[Niox]

+Support
-idk why I would intentionally crash just to be refunded away from my teammates and at a disadvantaged position, but yknow believe what you want to believe

 

[fyzar]

+support for scps
-support for type blues

you can easily abuse this for type blues to get around the decay timer, but there isnt much to be abused on an scp as your health and stuff can just be set by staff

 

[Joris Kilotoviz/London]

+Support for RP purposes when you are RPing with a Scp (For example, if GOC had taken a KTE back to their base after it beached to surface, they should be able to get the Scp back)

Major -Support for Breaches and TBs as it could be heavily abused "Oh dear I'm on mid Hp and cornered by several ERT. Time to "crash" so when I'm refunded the ERT aren't there any more"

 

[Holland]

- SUPPORT
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This will be abused too much and clientside crashing can be forced without the staff knowing it, I can program software that can make me crash my game when I press a certain key on my keyboard there are many ways and to many ways of crashing your game even alt f4 is almost undetectable.

 

[Derek White]

Suggestion Denied​

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Hi @Sayo ,

Thanks for taking the time to make a server suggestion.
The Content Team has chosen to deny your suggestion due to the following reasons.

This has been denied due to the fact that it will be to easly abusable if people get into a situation they do not like as in a tb get cuffed and alt F4 and call for a refund

Your suggestion will now be locked and marked as denied.​