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Before I get into this in depth, I want to let the reader know that before the change on surface with the stickied docs, there was an active surface, active civilians, where'd they go? Why is it only PAM and very few actual civis now? Because the staff seen UNGOC bitch to them about civilians, so they made the Mayor and Ranger completely have to listen and follow the UNGOC no matter what they do, especially if the UNGOC kills Rangers or Civilians, or abducting the Mayor without valid RP reason, that document makes the UNGOC able to do whatever they want, whenever they want on surface, giving them the ability to break server rules because they are protected by one.
Thank you for your time, I hope you understood what I had typed out above.
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This Suggestion (if accepted) wishes to remove the UNGOC's out of character rule to the Mayor and Ranger job, I am not only speaking for myself in this matter, there are many others that want the same. This suggestion (if accepted) will change surface RP for the better and make it so many people are happy rather than the select few (UN), it also will remove the documents that are OOC+IC in the spawnpoints of the Ranger and Mayor job.
Yeah there is a specific suggestion that is alike to this one, its another one I had created, it's called "Removing GOC stuff from Ranger & Mayor", this is because I want to write something in response to "World"s reason of denying my first suggestion, this suggestion is different because it will give more insight and the same emphasis the older one had, and to be as informative as possible. The suggestion is labeled as "Resolved"
The main positive of this suggestion is to let civilian/surface RP be like it used to, not talking about minging because I know people are going to pull that, but rather make surface RP less admin ties with what civilians and factions do in game and in character, and civilian/surface RP used to be awesome because the amount of things that held the civilians down was the roleplay aspect and not the ruleplay aspect, now its exactly like foundation, more ruleplay and people being banned because another person is mad for getting bodied when he tried to pick a fight with 6 rangers, a Mayor, and countless civilians...
The other positives are listed below:
Thank you for your time, I hope you understood what I had typed out above.
This Suggestion (if accepted) wishes to remove the UNGOC's out of character rule to the Mayor and Ranger job, I am not only speaking for myself in this matter, there are many others that want the same. This suggestion (if accepted) will change surface RP for the better and make it so many people are happy rather than the select few (UN), it also will remove the documents that are OOC+IC in the spawnpoints of the Ranger and Mayor job.
Yeah there is a specific suggestion that is alike to this one, its another one I had created, it's called "Removing GOC stuff from Ranger & Mayor", this is because I want to write something in response to "World"s reason of denying my first suggestion, this suggestion is different because it will give more insight and the same emphasis the older one had, and to be as informative as possible. The suggestion is labeled as "Resolved"
The main positive of this suggestion is to let civilian/surface RP be like it used to, not talking about minging because I know people are going to pull that, but rather make surface RP less admin ties with what civilians and factions do in game and in character, and civilian/surface RP used to be awesome because the amount of things that held the civilians down was the roleplay aspect and not the ruleplay aspect, now its exactly like foundation, more ruleplay and people being banned because another person is mad for getting bodied when he tried to pick a fight with 6 rangers, a Mayor, and countless civilians...
The other positives are listed below:
- More roleplay instead of ruleplay
- Less UNGOC making senseless wars against a Canadian town (less RDM from UNGOC)
- Agreed upon by a few communities of people
- More unique roleplay from civilians instead of the Mayor and Ranger not being able to do anything whatsoever
The last one is a major thing, I asked an admin in a sit (what am I to do?) and he told me (Just listen to GOC) but the UNGOC hate my guts only because I am PAM, out of character and in character, if you don't believe it, watch this video of them starting an arguement on PAM in mess hall for the sole reason of someone talking about whens a surface update coming out. The video hyperlink is here.
And this was started because the UNGOC people got pressed OOC because of what happened IC, they called sits but I assure you nothing happened to any civs or foundation, the civs didn't participate in the raid because they were too busy being spawncamped by CI snipers because the CI leader issued an order to KOS anyone with a gun out, makes you see what the bullshit is on surface, if there hadn't been any bullshit then this wouldn't of happened.
The possible negatives of this suggestion is listed below:
And this was started because the UNGOC people got pressed OOC because of what happened IC, they called sits but I assure you nothing happened to any civs or foundation, the civs didn't participate in the raid because they were too busy being spawncamped by CI snipers because the CI leader issued an order to KOS anyone with a gun out, makes you see what the bullshit is on surface, if there hadn't been any bullshit then this wouldn't of happened.
The possible negatives of this suggestion is listed below:
- This would hurt the UNGOC's feelings since they only RP when its in their favor and will never take the L
- This would stop the nobility system on surface while it still can
- This would make the factions on surface liable for any rule breaks (sorta, 9/10 the admins going to still take their side)
This suggestion should be accepted because you have already seen it work out, this will really add more civilian RP and less RDM against civilians thats justified through that one document, in the words of a guy that hates PAM that denied the last one named "World",
"Suggestion denied: This change was originally made in light of our effort to increase the possibilities of SurfaceRP on the server. While it doesn't align with your style of roleplay this is still how we envision and would like mayor/rangers to operate."
There is no way for the Mayor or Rangers to operate if the UNGOC hate them both IC and OOC for the reason being that they get their asses kicked whenever they try to kill civilians without reason, it is impossible for me to play Mayor with the UNGOC hating me, but I will still do it until I either get banned or go something else.
"Suggestion denied: This change was originally made in light of our effort to increase the possibilities of SurfaceRP on the server. While it doesn't align with your style of roleplay this is still how we envision and would like mayor/rangers to operate."
There is no way for the Mayor or Rangers to operate if the UNGOC hate them both IC and OOC for the reason being that they get their asses kicked whenever they try to kill civilians without reason, it is impossible for me to play Mayor with the UNGOC hating me, but I will still do it until I either get banned or go something else.
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