USA special agent appeal

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Vlone

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Name: Baldwin Vigil
Steam ID: 76561199119064542
Please state if it is for SCP-RP UK or USA: USA
Level of appeal (2 or 3): 3
Have you already carried out a level 1 appeal - please give details: Yes I have carried out my level 1 appeals to DEA director chan
Who did you carry out the level 1 appeal to, and where: Director chan
Rank demoted from: Special Agent
Who demoted you?: Director Chan
Date of demotion?: 7/16/23
What is the case against you?: For Misuse of comms [never shown any evidence] Misconduct [Never shown evidence] Toxic behavior's towards DEA and members [never shown evidence] Main reason of demotion was Misuse of comms and misconduct.
Is this true?: No as there was no evidence of it
Prior to this demotion, have you ever been demoted?: No
Please list any previous roleplay demotion appeals: Level 2 appeal for Special agent
What is your side of the story?: So it has been said by other people saying that chan said "The only reason why I demoted Baldwin was because of my position being threatened if I didnt demote him I would. Now who are authorized to demote chan, O5 and Ethics. personally I never have any issues at all with ethics and they never really control DEA as DEA is under O5 but I was mainly and I say only reason included of me being demoted was misuse of comms and misconduct. Now that im being told of "minging" and "toxic behavior" when never shown evidence. The only time I was shown toxic was towards a DEA member that was harassing me and threatened him with PT if he did not leave me alone. besides that why did chan say he was being threatened of his position? and when I ask a few people about they block me and never talk to me and avoid me as maybe there hiding something but then chan also says "I want baldwin to reapply for special agent as he was my CO in O-1 and I have respect for him as Baldwin had changed O-1 really good" but he denies my reapplication for special agent but he wants me in DEA. This seem's odd as that misconduct and misuse of comm's is no valid reason to demote a special agent especially who has been doing better and been putting in the most work out of everyone putting an amount of un healthy hours into the department just to get demoted on the day of my family member passing away. So now people are cutting me off when I ask, Chan refused to show me any evidence of the misconduct and misuse of comms, now toxic behavior's within the 24 hours of my demotion when on that day I was hardly on on July 16, so now nothing is adding up as now there is random reasons for demoting me when I never got a strike, a warning, or any other heads up about my actions, so why did chan not take action? and im guessing O5 is mad about me getting captured and me not able to pay off a 80k bounty on my head so CI rather Class F me so when I kill A-1 they tell overseer's about it or chan so what is really going on can someone please tell me the real reason for demoting me and show evidence because I am tired of being lied to. Also Deftone of all agency managers is avoiding me and not talking to me as I did already hear when he is talking with bohemia and giving me a rude voice saying "were denying your appeal" before it was even said it was denied so now that leads me that SA do not like me as im am doing to well in DEA or probably having issues with me in the past and now finding small reasons to demote me and not have me succeed thinking im corrupt. under countless people could say im actually a nice and fun person to play and RP with but now I guess SA are threatening Chan to be demoted of his position.


He also said that he has spoken with agency managers about my level 1 appeal but I was told by deftone that agency managers dont have a say in this appeal. also about that GOC incident about me shooting them chan said this "alot of comms misuses shoting of a goc today and more -Chan] as in what misuse as the info breach of 008 on surface when the mayor and rangers were raiding the foundation and we were at war with the rangers. he also said the overall of reports of misconduct.

In the conversation I had with him I said this included with my level 1 appeal of me saying [also another situation of being reported about my self is that I need or require some evidence of the clip or conversation in game of what I did wrong so I can understand what I did so I can go with the story.] all he said was in the last 24 hours of being demoted, you have gone around disrespecting dea and members of it. with no evidence of what I asked for. thing is within those 24 hours of being demoted I was talking to chan about the appeal and never really disrespect any DEA member? with no evidence again.
 
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Khan

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Chan was never once threatened with demotion during the course of your demotion. do you have evidence to back this up?

Also why would I be mad at you for being class-F'd and trying to kill me? makes 0 sense
 

Vlone

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Chan was never once threatened with demotion during the course of your demotion. do you have evidence to back this up?

Also why would I be mad at you for being class-F'd and trying to kill me? makes 0 sense
that's the point im trying to prove of the no sense im making all of this is what everyone else is saying this is what chan said and what I seen the point im making is the claims make no sense to the time's at all, the demotion was not needed as there was no real reason but why would I be reported for something that was not or wasnt intended of the demotion like toxic behavior when I never shown toxicity towards DEA but misuse of comm's and misconduct and chan didnt show me any evidence is sketched now he is saying to other DEA that "He was being threatened of his position or it will be me being demoted" but he did not say a name but only O5 and Ethics and demote Chan but I never had issue's with chan and I try to talk with O5 or any members of it and A-1 they give me some sass or a mood like saying fuck off but this is some word's coming out of chan and everything that is being said does not make any sense so I ask you what is the real reason of my demotion as there reasons were stated have proven "not a real job demotion" as they were not a real reason like I can under stand a strike or left on a warning but he did not talk with me at all about it and as of the Class F thing because I kept getting captured a lot it's because I actually put a dent in CI when they raid and a singular special agent on potent with a DSR by my self can make a dent. so therefore please help me understand what is the real reason to this demotion?
 
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I'll provide some personal accounts but I suggest to anyone reading this to take this with a grain of salt due to it being a personal perspective and my position as a Special Agent rather than Senior DEA Leadership. I've interacted with you both on my Special Agent and other characters and it seems you've taken the role excessively seriously. While I understand professionalism it's important to understand how to interact with other personnel both within DEA and outside of DEA. An example of this is when you asked an Agent who made a passing negative remark about you to be job banned for an hour. This is excessive when consulting our punishment guidelines and the only reason the agent wasn't punished was because I intervened and gave him the proper punishment (being a verbal.) You've talked poorly of DEA and DEA Leadership in CI Comms several times after your demotion that only reinforces my perspective of your toxicity. Also I hope you understand that combat efficiency isn't the only reason for keeping Special Agents. As they are CL4 they have a lot of other duties that can include being effective in combat but being a role model for other DEA and personnel supersedes all of these. Your lack of care when handling your power and consist trash talking of DEA and other people is an example of you being a poor role model. Once again, I don't have access to the proper reasoning for your demotion so I can merely speculate but if I were to I would say those had a part in your demotion.
 

Vlone

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I'll provide some personal accounts but I suggest to anyone reading this to take this with a grain of salt due to it being a personal perspective and my position as a Special Agent rather than Senior DEA Leadership. I've interacted with you both on my Special Agent and other characters and it seems you've taken the role excessively seriously. While I understand professionalism it's important to understand how to interact with other personnel both within DEA and outside of DEA. An example of this is when you asked an Agent who made a passing negative remark about you to be job banned for an hour. This is excessive when consulting our punishment guidelines and the only reason the agent wasn't punished was because I intervened and gave him the proper punishment (being a verbal.) You've talked poorly of DEA and DEA Leadership in CI Comms several times after your demotion that only reinforces my perspective of your toxicity. Also I hope you understand that combat efficiency isn't the only reason for keeping Special Agents. As they are CL4 they have a lot of other duties that can include being effective in combat but being a role model for other DEA and personnel supersedes all of these. Your lack of care when handling your power and consist trash talking of DEA and other people is an example of you being a poor role model. Once again, I don't have access to the proper reasoning for your demotion so I can merely speculate but if I were to I would say those had a part in your demotion.
your talking about after my demotion and for that toxicity was directed towards the 2 managers and chan as that my opinion been betrayed by my own friends that I thought I can trust but yes I did know that combat isn't always the best or makes me the best I also am very smart when it comes to telling people what to do as a leader and having them do the right things and having most DEA do other more important things such as guarding (when needed), escorting mainly SA, doing patrols, making sure no one does anything dumb, look over more than any other special agent does after the amount of unhealthy hours I put in but shark I understand your point of view as but you see what I am saying in my appeal as that nothing makes sense to my demotion as in everyone is saying 1 thing or the same things when there all saying different things as nothing makes sense. Please try to understand my POV.
 
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Appeal Denied

Hi @Vlone ,



Thanks for taking the time to make a Demotion appeal. We do apologise for the delay in response.


We have reviewed all of the evidence, provided by yourself and the other people involved. We can see that the cases against you especially toxicity are true, even from an OOC perspective. You have shown yourself to be very toxic when talking about the department and the senior members and showing a lot of unprofessionalism.

It is the best interest of yourself and the department that you spend some time looking to improve your relations and build up the trust in the department again.

As this is a level 3 you may not re-appeal this. You will need to re-apply for Special agent but we will be placing a 2 week cooldown on this.

If you would like to chat through cooldown, please contact either Senior Admin Mercer, Senior Admin 'Red' or Admin Hacker.​
 
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