Rule Suggestion Big Issue

[Houston Benton]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:

Add a rule that forbids CI players from hopping on SCP's during a raid.
Or CI Requesting for SCP's to hop on during a raid with the intent to breach.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:

This hasn't been suggested previously

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):

Less Long breaches that kill everything activity wise on the server
Less Coordinated-OP SCP's that ignore CI raiding parties

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:

None It forces CI to work with whatever SCP's that are onsite at that time rather than hopping on a combo-wombo of Type green's, astronaut, 079 that kill any semblance of roleplay

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:

Would make SCP breaches that occur not last that thing as it'll be random players.
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[Betriv]

-support
or the staff can actually do their job and enforce scps metagaming in ts

 

[Joe "Enoch"]

- Support

This is just a UK issue. CI on US do not breach nearly enough for this to be a needed change.

 

[Tigole]

- Support

This is just a UK issue. CI on US do not breach nearly enough for this to be a needed change.

because of above
- support

 

[Wukong The Great Sage]

-Support

Please I beg of you do not fuckin implement this on US we have no occurring issues with this and if we do, we swiftly punish them.

 

[Skyfire1355]

I believe this isn't required and staff simple needs to be more assertive on such an issue.

 

[Merrick Travolta]

I believe this isn't required and staff simple needs to be more assertive on such an issue.

Staff could be assertive if this was against the rules, It is not.


As to tackle this post Whew...

I've never been a fan of CI raids, (Shocker), but I feel like this rule is mechanically difficult to enforce, Especially if someone goes out of their way to change from chaos to D-class then to SCP, It'd require staff to know the F names of CI players who more than often haven't developed their name enough to be recognisable.

I do thin CI players hopping onto anomalies is an issue, but what's stopping them preflagging on? Most CI players (this is going off UK strictly) are aware how to play SCP's to minmax their combative potential and they could preflag which circumvents this entire ruling.
We already have to move CI out of channels if they're on SCP's, (Any blips with that is a matter of enforcement from the staff team).

I believe instead of doing this, introducing a cooldown to flagging onto an SCP job would solve this, say... 5 minutes?

 

[Tigole]

I believe instead of doing this, introducing a cooldown to flagging onto an SCP job would solve this, say... 5 minutes?

This quite literally already exists when flagging off or onto another SCPs whilst already one. I don’t think this is possible to code unless it’s based off when a player dies.

 

[Merrick Travolta]

This quite literally already exists when flagging off or onto another SCPs whilst already one. I don’t think this is possible to code unless it’s based off when a player dies.

I'd believe this is doable, but it'd be up to developers to do so we'll see.

 

[Pyrite]

- Support

This is just a UK issue. CI on US do not breach nearly enough for this to be a needed change.

Wont matter if it gets added then
US will be just fine
Also thats cause US CI are a skill issue

 

[James Dingle]

god forbid i dont want a plummer on an scp im breaching especially after the box upgrades

With all due respect, being able to pick and choose the 'best' players to play an SCP to cause maximum damage with a breach should not be the goal of anyone on a roleplay server. You're also actively stopping others from being able to play these SCPs if they want to flag on when a breach is occuring. For example, 9/10 times you find Type-Greens being breached during a breach raid, it'll be someone from CI who also plays TB.

If you have someone who isn't very 'good' at the SCP, then that's kind of tough shit and they certainly shouldn't be made to feel any less because they didn't farm an insane killstreak.

Everyone is aware how big breaches halt the core gameplay loop for at least 60% of the Foundation, non-combatives especially more.

Finally, the same SCPs being constantly breached over and over is so stale and serves no purpose other than for people to go 'Look guys, we caused another code black / nuke scenario'.

From a players standpoint, I am in complete support of this.

 

[Joe "Enoch"]

Wont matter if it gets added then
US will be just fine
Also thats cause US CI are a skill issue

It will matter because it's going to kill a goi on us. Dare I say it's not us Ci have a skill issue it's UK foundation that has the skill issue.

 

[Average member podidski]

Wont matter if it gets added then
US will be just fine
Also thats cause US CI are a skill issue

Let me tell you something buddy:

ARE YOU FUCKING DUMB? YOU KNOW YOU WILL KILL CI, THE COMBATIVES MUST HAS CI TO GET SOME ENJOYMENT FROM IT, IF YOU KILL CI (EVEN IF YOU WILL DO), THE SCPRP US SERVER WILL BE LIKE THE US MRP SERVER, IT DIED. NOW TELL ME, YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT US CI BECAUSE YOU ARE US FOUDNATION MAIN HUH? I BET YOU PLAY COMBATIVE ROLES SOMETIMES, SO TELL ME, IN SHORT TERM ITS NOT GONNA BE BAD FOR YOU, BUT IN LONG TERM, OH BOY IT WILL. So BE smart and don't kill the server you play on. BECAUSE EVEN THE "RP Based" SERVERS ARE SMARTER THAN THIS CRAP. ALSO YOU ARE CI DELCOM, SO WHAT THE FUCK YOU TALKING ABOUT?


I'm very sorry for rant staff, i give you full permisson to delete my comment if you wish to.

 

[casseno1]

+Support
ci moment

 

[Julien White]

Let me tell you something buddy:

ARE YOU FUCKING DUMB? YOU KNOW YOU WILL KILL CI, THE COMBATIVES MUST HAS CI TO GET SOME ENJOYMENT FROM IT, IF YOU KILL CI (EVEN IF YOU WILL DO), THE SCPRP US SERVER WILL BE LIKE THE US MRP SERVER, IT DIED. NOW TELL ME, YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT US CI BECAUSE YOU ARE US FOUDNATION MAIN HUH? I BET YOU PLAY COMBATIVE ROLES SOMETIMES, SO TELL ME, IN SHORT TERM ITS NOT GONNA BE BAD FOR YOU, BUT IN LONG TERM, OH BOY IT WILL. So BE smart and don't kill the server you play on. BECAUSE EVEN THE "RP Based" SERVERS ARE SMARTER THAN THIS CRAP. ALSO YOU ARE CI DELCOM, SO WHAT THE FUCK YOU TALKING ABOUT?


I'm very sorry for rant staff, i give you full permisson to delete my comment if you wish to.

can we make it so its failrp to switch to scps if you're on ci or something

 

[Grong]

It will matter because it's going to kill a goi on us. Dare I say it's not us Ci have a skill issue it's UK foundation that has the skill issue.

If US CI "Don't breach that much" then why would a rule change specifically pertaining to SCP breaches make a difference to the activity of the faction?

+Support, this should have always been a thing anyway

Let me tell you something buddy:

ARE YOU FUCKING DUMB? YOU KNOW YOU WILL KILL CI, THE COMBATIVES MUST HAS CI TO GET SOME ENJOYMENT FROM IT, IF YOU KILL CI (EVEN IF YOU WILL DO), THE SCPRP US SERVER WILL BE LIKE THE US MRP SERVER, IT DIED. NOW TELL ME, YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT US CI BECAUSE YOU ARE US FOUDNATION MAIN HUH? I BET YOU PLAY COMBATIVE ROLES SOMETIMES, SO TELL ME, IN SHORT TERM ITS NOT GONNA BE BAD FOR YOU, BUT IN LONG TERM, OH BOY IT WILL. So BE smart and don't kill the server you play on. BECAUSE EVEN THE "RP Based" SERVERS ARE SMARTER THAN THIS CRAP. ALSO YOU ARE CI DELCOM, SO WHAT THE FUCK YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Whole lotta words but nothing really said

 

[Joe "Enoch"]

If US CI "Don't breach that much" then why would a rule change specifically pertaining to SCP breaches make a difference to the activity of the faction?

The reason why is because it will make it WAY harder to breach when we do breach. Just like how the UK Foundation cant fight off CI raids, thus making every SCP a CL5/6 to hack out, it is a change because the UK Foundation cant handle it. This is a change made purely because CI on UK likes to breach alot, this should not be a punishment for the US CI. Have your staff crack down on SCPs teaming, or something other than making a change for both communities because one community cant handle CI. Just my two cents on this topic.

 

[Remmy]

Let me tell you something buddy:

ARE YOU FUCKING DUMB? YOU KNOW YOU WILL KILL CI, THE COMBATIVES MUST HAS CI TO GET SOME ENJOYMENT FROM IT, IF YOU KILL CI (EVEN IF YOU WILL DO), THE SCPRP US SERVER WILL BE LIKE THE US MRP SERVER, IT DIED. NOW TELL ME, YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT US CI BECAUSE YOU ARE US FOUDNATION MAIN HUH? I BET YOU PLAY COMBATIVE ROLES SOMETIMES, SO TELL ME, IN SHORT TERM ITS NOT GONNA BE BAD FOR YOU, BUT IN LONG TERM, OH BOY IT WILL. So BE smart and don't kill the server you play on. BECAUSE EVEN THE "RP Based" SERVERS ARE SMARTER THAN THIS CRAP. ALSO YOU ARE CI DELCOM, SO WHAT THE FUCK YOU TALKING ABOUT?


I'm very sorry for rant staff, i give you full permisson to delete my comment if you wish to.

Could we get that in English please mate?

I’m pro-CI all the way.

 

[Broda]

Let me tell you something buddy:

ARE YOU FUCKING DUMB? YOU KNOW YOU WILL KILL CI, THE COMBATIVES MUST HAS CI TO GET SOME ENJOYMENT FROM IT, IF YOU KILL CI (EVEN IF YOU WILL DO), THE SCPRP US SERVER WILL BE LIKE THE US MRP SERVER, IT DIED. NOW TELL ME, YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT US CI BECAUSE YOU ARE US FOUDNATION MAIN HUH? I BET YOU PLAY COMBATIVE ROLES SOMETIMES, SO TELL ME, IN SHORT TERM ITS NOT GONNA BE BAD FOR YOU, BUT IN LONG TERM, OH BOY IT WILL. So BE smart and don't kill the server you play on. BECAUSE EVEN THE "RP Based" SERVERS ARE SMARTER THAN THIS CRAP. ALSO YOU ARE CI DELCOM, SO WHAT THE FUCK YOU TALKING ABOUT?


I'm very sorry for rant staff, i give you full permisson to delete my comment if you wish to.

 

[Sceptre]

Let me tell you something buddy:

ARE YOU FUCKING DUMB? YOU KNOW YOU WILL KILL CI, THE COMBATIVES MUST HAS CI TO GET SOME ENJOYMENT FROM IT, IF YOU KILL CI (EVEN IF YOU WILL DO), THE SCPRP US SERVER WILL BE LIKE THE US MRP SERVER, IT DIED. NOW TELL ME, YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT US CI BECAUSE YOU ARE US FOUDNATION MAIN HUH? I BET YOU PLAY COMBATIVE ROLES SOMETIMES, SO TELL ME, IN SHORT TERM ITS NOT GONNA BE BAD FOR YOU, BUT IN LONG TERM, OH BOY IT WILL. So BE smart and don't kill the server you play on. BECAUSE EVEN THE "RP Based" SERVERS ARE SMARTER THAN THIS CRAP. ALSO YOU ARE CI DELCOM, SO WHAT THE FUCK YOU TALKING ABOUT?


I'm very sorry for rant staff, i give you full permisson to delete my comment if you wish to.

Settle down, okay?

 

[CyberRecon]

-Support
All SCPs in the Foundations is meant to be on site the whole point of a raid is to have raid goals. Just so happens that CI UK realized that and abuse that fact. When it comes to teaming With SCPs It has been drilled many times from Staff and actively discouraged thing to do. As a CI USA main we don't even touch SCPs anymore unless its 008 because there's no reason to go for anything other since all the hacking is just not worth the pay off and most of the time we get gunned downed by all of MTF. My raids have only turned out bad since the hack levels being increased.