Denied Removing the infantry rework

[CORE.]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove: removing the rework of the infantry and revert back to old Infantry


Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?: Don't believe so.


Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2): More numbers of fresh players joining each regiment Beside old player's
not having grind to access those regiment especially Infantry regiments (ISAF/SHA) and they would be enable them to do tryouts for the fresh player's again

Possible Negatives of the suggestion: I believe it may be frowned upon By other player's.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
ever since this rework was implemented it started to slowly kill the server, we tried to train them, explain them of what have to do, take them out of base to build fobs, they wouldn't play anymore we had at least Hundreds of fresh players for the past month according to the infantry list for the past but alot of them never played again

Before this was implemented PVTs would choose a regiment to join and give them a tryout and the PVTs would start to continue to play the server from time to time because they feel they are apart of a Team that's what kept them playing
especially other NCOs would Consistently do it if they have nothing to do if they finished building fobs/ Trainings.
(Most of them Left and never played again after the update)
Rather than just immediately become part of ISAF/SHA which killed the tryout system for us.
It's better to revert back to the old infantry to let them chose what regiment they want to join.

 

[Trickster]

+Support
The rework is confusing for new players and there werent many tryouts being done before the rework, I dont see how adding restrictions to when people can receive a tryout is beneficial for regiments and players and I believe this change should be reverted.

 

[nathancheetah]

+SUPPORT

Lowkey this rework killed the server and regiments

 

[Dentos]

+Support
CTRL+Z is an option

 

[Jack G]

-sup

the rework gave some reason to play as a PVT before just instantly joining a regiment. Realistically, if the only downside that you see is that you don't have to do tryouts anymore AND that they can't instantly join whatever regiment (which they still can). The way in which it's done now, they're attached to SHA/ISAF so that they get to grips with the server through an induction which is basically just the recruitment process we did.. That's what they should be taken through in peacetime, rather than it for being their initiation into the regiment, it's more of an INDUCTION to the server. Don't be confused by the numbers, they were like that regardless of the Infantry update it just now shows us what infantry there are altogether rather than those that are on the server.

The ranks that they needed to get to join Special Forces and Police was Dropped. They don't lose their ranks as they get transferred into the regiments with the same ranks now.

The only negative I can see from this update is limitations and more experience towards the SF and Police which realistically isn't a 'negative' as per say, its more so a benefit as people should be flocking to join the SF as well as confusion to New Players.
Realistically, we need to just clarify to the trainees somehow that the route that they can take as well as how it works. Nothing in the trainee room was updated when the infantry update was released, I think there needs to be something to clarify.

 

[Jimothy Leaderson]

-Support

Bold claim to say that the infantry rework is the thing killing the server and there’s not really evidence being provided to show that as the case, plenty of privates leave for no reason in general but that’s a result of retention issues as a whole rather than this rework

 

[Zakariya]

-support

The infantry rework brought in a more comfortable way of starting off in the server. It is also worth mentioning that the server is not "dying" because of it. The server is dying because of its questionable gameplay loop. I understand that the tryouts might be on the low but the rules can easily be adjusted to promote more of them.

 

[lolingmonster]

+/- Support its a good update but in some aspects it is not it need to be reviewed and then re implemented i think that is the best idea since it keeps PVT more active ​

 

[Mr Cum]

+Support
Never thought i'd agree with core but I dont see the beneifts of this. It has evidently killed AG as new players aren't going to commit to wait for DAYS to join SAS/AG. I have thought about alternatives, but I think a cool solution could be to auto promote new pvts based on wars played.

 

[HighWorks]

+ Support

Statistically when the rework is implement, 3 days later the server went starving. AG and KGB are non existing for a few members as an exception.

 

[Jack G]

AG and KGB failing miserably but RMP and SAS doing well isn’t something to do with the update evidently
The numbers dropping because of the update is also very false as its current players that dropped, personally I’ve found that retaining the new players is easier
Finally, it takes 1 day to get the rank needed to for SAS/AG and 0 days for RMP/KGB as they can be promoted on the same day as they transfer.

Putting the blame for shitty performances from 2x regiments entirely down to an update is kinda sad tbh.

Finally, I don’t see what this whole ideology of that AG/SAS doesn’t have millions of people in OMG, if people don’t want to play for One even TWO days then you how can you justify them joining a regiment that’s meant to have special standards, much like for the policing regiments? If there was a cap, people would want to join it for exclusivity, plus gives the excuse to give them ‘better weapons’ or equipment. Removing the update outright is a stupid idea ngl but reworking it as someone said isn’t terrible

 

[Jorge]

+support
didnt think i'd agree with core but if i was a private and wanted to join 10th/17th but had to wait a few days before i can actually join the regiment i want i just wouldn't bother, may aswell just keep it simple.

 

[Otters]

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2): More numbers of fresh players joining each regiment Beside old player's
not having grind to access those regiment especially Infantry regiments (ISAF/SHA) and they would be enable them to do tryouts for the fresh player's again


I wish to point out that whenever a new player join the server joins the server, they are technically a NATO PVT, but they are also apart of ISAF. What people seem to misunderstand is that "oh they don't have ISAF in their name, therefore they are not apart of my regiment and they need to be LCPL to join ISAF/SHA, but they are already apart of your regiment (technically).

 

[CORE.]

Ok be fair with me jack G

I spent hours on end and days in the TRN room.

I trained them and then meet them at the infantry spawn help them with their weapon attachment outside helipads and took the PVTs outside base to show the FOBs and build them and explained to them the ranking system and cooldowns even showed them the cool stuff that each regiment gets and even made it appealing For them.

I did what I was told to do.

most of them up and left, hell a lot of them never go past PFC or LCPL pretty much go check it for yourself.

 

[waleewlolo]

+Support

 

[Zakariya]

Ok be fair with me jack G

I spent hours on end and days in the TRN room.

I trained them and then meet them at the infantry spawn help them with their weapon attachment outside helipads and took the PVTs outside base to show the FOBs and build them and explained to them the ranking system and cooldowns even showed them the cool stuff that each regiment gets and even made it appealing For them.

I did what I was told to do.

most of them up and left, hell a lot of them never go past PFC or LCPL pretty much go check it for yourself.

Didn't this always exist even before the infantry rework. This isn't a infantry reworks problem this is moreso a fundamental server issue of it having poor player retention qualities.

 

[Guts]

ill be honest with you chief

the only things mrp has going for it rn are the firefights

remove the rp aspect and just turn it into a full on warfare game at this rate

 

[Harry]

+/- support
cheers

 

[Aleem Abdul]

Suggestion Denied​

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Hi CORE, Your suggestion has been denied.

The infantry rework is still a WIP, we are always looking to improve the system so any feedback is appreciated. Somethings we are looking to do/have already done is changing the regiments name to 'isaf/sha enlisted' to make it more clear that they are apart of that regiment. On top of that we have already reduced the rank you need to be to join SF regiments.

Thank you for taking the time to make a suggestion​