Rule Suggestion [UK] Foundation should not be allowed in surface vents.

[doped]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
-It makes Foundation members who can leave the Facility unable to stay in surface vents, waiting for a parawatch/civilian/CI to appear.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
-Not sure.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
-Gives CI more of chance to Main Raid/Deep Cover
-Doesn't allow DEA/NU7 to hide in them , due to CI not being allowed in vents without a MR/DC being authorized

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
-DEA/NU7 not liking this suggestion
-Easier DCs/MRs

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
-It helps us Chaos Insurgency do proper Raids, because at the current moment , if there is an enemy in the surface vents , any raid can end in less than 20 seconds.
DEA/NU7 may not like this suggestion , but this is the only fair thing to do for more RP situations.

 

[Bohemia]

- Support
UK issue

 

[Emilia Foddg]

...you know, what if there was like, something at the vents entrance of vents that says if there's someone in that little bit
not the entirety of vents, just that entrance.

like some kind of tell. obviously not floating text that says "HEY THERE'S SOMEONE IN HERE" but like some kind of visual effect that appears all the time there's someone in there? or even just the absence of an effect, maybe it could be like some kind of rising cloud of dust or other, since you're basically climbing in through an exhaust - so when there's no-one in there, it just freely is able to go up and out into the sky, but when people are inside, it blocks that flow. might also give some RP potential for parawatch to make conspiracy theories about what is happening with it

that would kind of just... make this entire thing a non-issue.

 

[Gasmask Person]

-Support

CI are camping little rats, why can't yall let DEA and Nu7 camp? (Also DEA could just use drones above vents)

Please give examples on how we're "camping little rats" instead of just throwing that excuse out without any legitimate basis, also having drones above vents is better since you can actually do something about that instead of walking into a instakill funnel.

 

[Guinea]

- Support
Civil network players when tactics, also uk issue

 

[Dalton]

- Support

 

[Biscuits]

-Support
not even a uk issue, we only ever sit in vents if your raid has been called out before you even got to vents
maybe uk ci just need to realise that sop aren't completely braindead anymore and actually attempt to counter ci raids

 

[KingViper115]

+Support

 

[Merrick Travolta]

Seems like a cope post. I've never seen nu or dea actively sit In vents. Normally they sweep vents when they suspect a ci is inside of . Plus there's ways around this like shield at front.

 

[Shinan]

- support
I've never once seen Nu-7 or DEA camp vents for no reason. Not without IC knowledge. We got agents on surface in disguise almost all the time. there's almost never a raid that hasn't been reported by surface agents before it was initiated...

All a surface agent need to do is write "potentional Raid, CI activity is high on surface, moving to foundation hill" and that is enough IC information to hold vents to prevent the raid. DEA and Nu-7 are meant to prevent raids.

it sounds mainly that you're posting this because it makes raids hard which simply means DEA and Nu-7 are doing their job.

 

[Kevin Ki]

-Support

Actual cope. Yall got a juggernaut, and a type blue. If you get smacked by a gremlin pvt with a rpk in a straight tube that's unironically a skill issue, maybe let the mf with 600HP take lead rather than hop in like bugs bunny.

 

[Niox]

I am CI so I will +support this

In actuality this doesn’t happen much from my experience - but a rule would be nice just to say you can’t sit in vents all day because hypothetically someone could just sit there for 29 hours
+Support

 

[Emilia Foddg]

-Support

Actual cope. Yall got a juggernaut, and a type blue. If you get smacked by a gremlin pvt with a rpk in a straight tube that's unironically a skill issue, maybe let the mf with 600HP take lead rather than hop in like bugs bunny.

what are DCs

 

[holymilk]

-support lol throw a nade or prefire

 

[Niox]

-support lol throw a nade or prefire

ah, because I will grenade and pre fire every time and nothing will never go wrong

 

[François "Napoléon"]

Actually do know we can only go into vents if we know you went into vents. If you saw nu7 or dea it's because they spotted you going to them so they went in. That is what we would do yesterday. We had dea drone for us and Nu7 scout any ci activity. If we saw you go to vents we would go there.

 

[Niox]

Actually do know we can only go into vents if we know you went into vents. If you saw nu7 or dea it's because they spotted you going to them so they went in. That is what we would do yesterday. We had dea drone for us and Nu7 scout any ci activity. If we saw you go to vents we would go there.

suggestion is more referring to camping the vents, and not entering it.

imagine if F couldnt enter there own vents

 

[Grong]

-Support

If this gets accepted then CI shouldn't be allowed to camp Fl2

Also just a cope suggestion

Maybe next time ACTUALLY make 2 negatives instead of just "Nu-7 and DEA won't like"

 

["Puggo"]

-Support
In-Character rules can prevent this
0 Issue on US Side and we are damn near fully combative

 

[Glazzing]

-support
Make it an IC policy, we have it on US as a treaty to not camp vents & CI base. Just ruins the fun for both DEA/Nu7 & CI.

 

[Pupper]

-Support