Denied Give ISD Enforcements Extra Armor

[socalphunk]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Give A-1 and O-1 Enforcement 20-50 extra armor on spawn. (Totaling 120-150)

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
This Suggestion is Similar.
I suggest only adding a small amount of armor to ISD enforcement jobs.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
-Extra use for Enforcements as the "body-shields" of EC/O5
-Right now most people play on the Specialist ISD jobs just because it is more useful, with grenades, QBZ, and a disguise kit. I think this would make enforcement more used.

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
-Imbalanced against CI. (The amount of armor can be adjusted.)

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Visually the ISD enforcement jobs are tanks and I think it would make sense if the armor reflected this. Enforcement jobs are also not used nearly as much as other roles simply because their only utility is a shield, enforcements are supposed to be the main role in charge of protecting CL5 but this is usually not the case because they bring minimal benefit compared to the Specialist job.

 

[Niox]

+Support for all heavy weapons classes not just ISD

if this applies
+Support

 

[emilsnat]

-suppoet
Just because you want something doesn't mean you get it

 

[Mars]

Bluds getting angry over a forums suggestion

+Support for all heavy weapons classes not just ISD

i dont think you are able to read emotions through the computer screen young man

 

[Mars]

-suppoet
Just because you want something doesn't mean you get it

that is why there is a suggestion channel to suggest what you want

 

[Grong]

-suppoet
Just because you want something doesn't mean you get it

Isn't that the whole point of a suggestion? To try and get something you want...

 

[Bill Nye The Guy]

+-neutral
if it's not broke don't fix it

 

[Skittles]

-suppoet
Just because you want something doesn't mean you get it

you're in the suggestions threads dude this is the whole purpose of them

+support big guns need big armour

 

[FrostByte]

=Neutral, if every other regiments version of the "enforcer" gets the same thing (E-11 Breacher, SCU, and Nu7 Autorifleman) then I can support it I guess. Otherwise, I don't see why only Alpha-1/Omega-1 would get this.

 

[Niox]

=Neutral, if every other regiments version of the "enforcer" gets the same thing (E-11 Breacher, SCU, and Nu7 Autorifleman) then I can support it I guess. Otherwise, I don't see why only Alpha-1/Omega-1 would get this.

SCU hell nah
also CI delta operative and GOC strike team fr?

 

["Apollo"]

+Support

 

[Kevin Ki]

Bluds getting angry over a forums suggestion

+Support for all heavy weapons classes not just ISD

Bro tbh the other guy seems to be getting heated over it too. I mean, people wanna talk about balancing like this game is balanced, especially with DEA and CI existing.

DEA is a better NU7/e11. Within 3 weeks (2 as senior to get to special 1 week to get approved) you can have a M249, DSR, Disguise kit, sticky grenade, etc, compared to the (if you're lucky) 7 weeks to get half of that in Nu-7 or E-11.

CI has a jugg with total 1k HP/Armor with easy access to PKM, a magic man with 600 HP/Armor who you have to have advanced prep to hope at handling, 2 disguise kits you can shred people using if you're smart, and some of the highest dps/recoil weapons (excluding GOC) and no limit to the amount of them, so if you're not willingly nerfing yourself (as commander) you have the strongest attack force possible, with a base that is impossible to counter raid if you operate with more that 6 people and more than room temp IQ. (Especially since US just locked NU7 to 50 people.)

So overall 50 more armor to like... 8 (if everyone flags on them) people ain't gonna make a massive difference to anything, so if it's added who cares, if not who cares?

 

[Aurelius/Amadeus]

+Support if done for E11 Breacher and Nu7 autorifleman too.

 

[Kevin Ki]

-suppoet
Just because you want something doesn't mean you get it

Goes to suggestion channel
Sees people suggesting things they would like

 

[Asura]

Bro tbh the other guy seems to be getting heated over it too. I mean, people wanna talk about balancing like this game is balanced, especially with DEA and CI existing.

DEA is a better NU7/e11. Within 3 weeks (2 as senior to get to special 1 week to get approved) you can have a M249, DSR, Disguise kit, sticky grenade, etc, compared to the (if you're lucky) 7 weeks to get half of that in Nu-7 or E-11.

CI has a jugg with total 1k HP/Armor with easy access to PKM, a magic man with 600 HP/Armor who you have to have advanced prep to hope at handling, 2 disguise kits you can shred people using if you're smart, and some of the highest dps/recoil weapons (excluding GOC) and no limit to the amount of them, so if you're not willingly nerfing yourself (as commander) you have the strongest attack force possible, with a base that is impossible to counter raid if you operate with more that 6 people and more than room temp IQ. (Especially since US just locked NU7 to 50 people.)

So overall 50 more armor to like... 8 (if everyone flags on them) people ain't gonna make a massive difference to anything, so if it's added who cares, if not who cares?

I see your point, but you also gotta remember the CI/GOC rate compared to Foundation is different. Foundation will always have the numbers, where you will have ISD, CM, GENSEC, E11, Nu7, and DEA responding to their raid. You also need to take that into account, and I think the reason for DEA having the better loadout is due to them mostly operating on the surface, which is the riskiest place. On the surface, there will most likely be more CI than DEA, and there will be TB/Jug on the surface as well. That's why they get the better loadout.

 

[socalphunk]

+Support

Probs gonna get denied, but I support it. Tbh for a good time I thought O1 WAS more armored because they look like it.

I thought the same before I joined A-1 which is the main reason I made this suggestion.

 

[Painter]

+support

What's there extra armor made out of? Cardboard? We in Canada not Russia.

 

[Zen]

Given what others have mentioned/suggested in relation to this, I'd propose that all of the roles like E-11 Breacher, ISD Enforcement, SCU, SRU get armour buffed in relation to what they visibly look like they have, so e.g. ISD Enforcement gets around 120AP, E-11 Breacher gets around 110AP, SCU and SRU get ???.

 

[Chad]

+support

 

[Second]

-suppoet
Just because you want something doesn't mean you get it

That's why suggestions exist..

Unrelated note, this you? https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/1raTQrdC077Pfu/d1337qno4kfc?invite=cr-MSxEMlYsMTg1ODU4NDU3LA

 

[Second]

+rep tho good suggestion, I think it should be extended to UNGOC - Strike Team, CI - Delta Operative, Nu-7 - Autorifleman, and E-11 Breacher as well as O-1 and A-1 Enforcement.